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American politics

My wife would tell someone to wait until the last possible moment if asked for her opinion today on MMR. She has a plan for our son for vaccines he will get that is spaced out and at an older age than recommend. My daughter is not due any more for another 9 years. They will be getting less than the average child.

She personally gave the MMR and other vaccines on the schedule thousands of times and saw issues arise first hand. Her expireince is that some children, especially when younger or getting vaccines closer together, are more susceptible to serious vaccine injury and that combination vaccines like MMR would more frequently result in issues. That rarely would the Drs report a vaccine related injury so the statistics will be inaccurate. The insurance companies would have incentive programs to reward the practice for high vaccination rates as well.

Prior to Covid her view was that these issues happened but for the majority of children vaccines worked and were safe. So although she would see problems arise for some individual children its still providing a net benefit to society. I remember her having a huge arguement with her cousin when we first met who was anti vax. Back when it was a fringe left wing issue so the hippy cousin was anti anything big pharma.

But since becoming a mother herself her views have changed and she feels enormous guilt for the vaccines she gave which resulted in injuring those children. She initially quit due to the insistence on the Covid vaccine and then not wishing to give them anymore, and just enjoying being a Mum, is the main part of why she has not gone back to work.

She will tell you that without fail, every single nurse colleague she had that’s also a mother, will delay the recommended schedule for their own children as well as many of the Drs she worked with. Many don’t vaccinate at all and some had moved to practices that allow parents to chose.

Since Covid and becoming a mother she’s done a lot more research on vaccine safety. She still believes that vaccines work and are effective for the majority of people and children but that many of the vaccines are not necessary as the risk of serious issues form those diseases are so low.

With RFK she is not totally in alignment with his views, both on vaccines and healthcare in general. But she voted for Trump primarily due to RFK when she’s voted Democrat every other time she was eligible. She believes that skepticism of vaccines is positive and will ultimately result in the safety testing being improved and a greater understanding of why vaccines can cause problems in some cases which is more frequent than the industry liked to admit.

For me as I said I follow her lead on health. Shes graduated from one of the best nursing schools in the world. She’s not overly political or conspiratorial in any other ways. I’ve come from the UK and see the stranglehold and influence that the pharmaceutical companies have over the healthcare system in the US and I dont trust them when it comes to medication in general. I’m sure you know about the opioid crisis. Why would I then give some of the very same profit orientated companies the benefit of the doubt with vaccines when they are not even legally obligated to ensure their safety to the same degree as a drugs they put to market?

If that makes us quacks so be it.
You choice I suppose

Given that swarthes of kids die of measles globally without the vaccine (around 150,000 a year) and only about 140 have died of the vaccine since the 80s, I know which side I am settled on, especially having had it myself, having had my son have it and seeing the local outbreak in Essex and Herts.

Funny you mentioned Israel, I looked and 14 kids died in 2025 due to the outbreak last in the year. None of them vaccinated for measles either.

Anyway, as I say, each to their own
 
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