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Ange in or out?

Ange in or out?

  • In

    Votes: 69 38.3%
  • Out

    Votes: 111 61.7%

  • Total voters
    180
And we finished 2 points from a cl place. Oh well.
Do you think being in the CL this season would have been to any benefit to the team? Given how the season has gone and Ange has managed us with the extra EL games we might well have gotten relegated. Truthfully we weren't ready for the CL and Ange 's start was ahead of schedule.

Also to remind you Villa went into the last game of last season knowing they had already qualified, there's no guarantee if they had needed the points that they would have played so listlessly in their final PL match.
 
We’ve never hit it, and we won’t until we are back in it.

Scara is saying that the EL is a target we should not be aiming at, it's beneath us.
We won it in '84 and not really been close since.
That's not actually a target that's beneath us, that's a target out of our reach.
 
Do you think being in the CL this season would have been to any benefit to the team? Given how the season has gone and Ange has managed us with the extra EL games we might well have gotten relegated. Truthfully we weren't ready for the CL and Ange 's start was ahead of schedule.

Also to remind you Villa went into the last game of last season knowing they had already qualified, there's no guarantee if they had needed the points that they would have played so listlessly in their final PL match.

And there is no guarantee we would have got 4th place even if we had beat Emirates Marketing Project. Aston Villa were still in pole position for 4th place. Everyone points to the fact that they lost 5-0 to Palace but they had already clinched 4th and had nothing to play for.

There was no guarantee. But there was a chance of getting cl.

We were talking about not caring what others think of us or say. The only reason fans wanted us to lose against city was so that arsenal wouldn't win the league. Because many of our fans care that they would gloat.

Sorry not and never will be, a good enough reason for me. It cost us £100m and gave it to villa.

But we move on. Hopefully it turns out good and we win the europa.
 
Agreed re CL.
And PL he's more likely to get us relegated than towards the top.
That said, football is about winning & winning breeds winning.
Win the EL, use it to build under a new manager.
Thank Ange for his efforts and taking us away from the Jose/Conte experiment.

I think it was @Jordinho that said he wants Ange to be "the one before "the one""

Football is all about money, I may be wrong but I think since the "Champions (and placed teams) League" only 1 team outside the elite clubs has won the league, the money that and dubious owners have poured into the clubs virtually ensures their places at the top. Football like most sports is about hope, we all go or watch hoping our favourites to do well.
 
Scara is saying that the EL is a target we should not be aiming at, it's beneath us.
We won it in '84 and not really been close since.
That's not actually a target that's beneath us, that's a target out of our reach.
West Ham have won a trophy and mickey mouse cup, they take the mick they have won a trophy ahead of us. We need this cup just to soften the tinkle taking we get on a constant daily basis.
 
There was no guarantee. But there was a chance of getting cl.

We were talking about not caring what others think of us or say. The only reason fans wanted us to lose against city was so that arsenal wouldn't win the league. Because many of our fans care that they would gloat.

Sorry not and never will be, a good enough reason for me. It cost us £100m and gave it to villa.

But we move on. Hopefully it turns out good and we win the europa.

Because they could have won the league and we still most likely would have finished 5th. So I ask we could have helped them win the league for what exactly? How would we have benefited from that? They would have essentially won the league at our ground again. I didn’t blame people or hold it against them for wanting us to win that game, but the moral posturing from those who wanted us to win was really quite grating at the time. Now if you offered me WINNING the Europa league in exchange for them winning the CL, as much as I don’t want them to win that competition I would absolutely take it. But helping them win the title just to have an outside chance of top 4 just wasn’t worth it IMO.
 
West Ham have won a trophy and mickey mouse cup, they take the mick they have won a trophy ahead of us. We need this cup just to soften the tinkle taking we get on a constant daily basis.
More than that, it also means Champions League qualification, the equivalent of the holy-grail “4th” that everyone is obsessed with. Honestly I think those who imply the Europa is beneath us are taking the tinkle. In the last 10 years, Atletico Madrid, Chelsea, Man U and Sevilla have won it while Liverpool, Arsenal, Man U, Inter, Roma, Ajax, Leverkusen were among the beaten finalists.
But not good enough for us apparently and in one or two cases the sooner we lose the better to expedite Ange’s departure. Bizarre!
 
If you at all of my posts you'll see the polar opposite.
I was one of the earliest calling for a change - definitively from November.
But I still want to win the EL. And then say thank you Ange.
I actually think that would be ideal - he's shown he isn't an PL manager. That's for certain.
But a EL win will show he is more than just a Celtic manager.

We hired him because he has talent. A EL competitive manager is probably where he is at. And that's no shame.

EL win, Ange and THFC move in more compatible directions... Perfecto!
Fair enough. I guess I'm not that bothered about the EL, especially if the price turned out to be another season with him at the helm.
 
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