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I liked Erik Lamela before it was cool

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Rossi22 said:
"We know what a talented player he is and we do also understand how players need time to settle," Sherwood said.

"Erik’s needing that time to acclimatise to a new country and the tempo of the games, especially over that Christmas period where them come thick and fast."

“We’re going to take it nice and steady with him and I really want to put him on the stage when he’s ready to perform, rather than let people judge him when he’s half-c0cked."

“He won’t be leaving on loan in this transfer window.”

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/453137/Tim-Sherwood-Tottenham-s-Erik-Lamela-not-for-sale
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Good stuff, all you ladies can untwist your panties and dry your eyes.
 
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luxury player better suited to serie a, we should cut our losses, not one of baldini's better ploys
 
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braineclipse said:
You seem to be missing the point.

Playing Lamela in the EL was fine as a way to slowly integrate him. But how does this fit in with playing him away to City for his first league start?

Do you think it was a similarly solid decision to give Ade his only minutes on the pitch away to City and then drop him again?



In and out of the team during a settling in period is fine. But how is giving him his first league start away to the best home team in the league helping him settle in? Tons of posters on here were hoping for a start for Lamela in a home game against a smaller club, that made sense. This is what I could see Wenger or Ferguson do. Starting him away to City and then dropping him makes no sense to me.

I can't think of a singe example where Wenger or Ferguson treated a player in a similar fashion, I might be wrong though.
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It was similar with Lloris - EL and Cup games and then a tough full league debut away to Arsenal around a similar time to Lamela/City(iirc)

So up until that point (the City game) i don't think there's much to suggest any kind of ulterior motives with his handling of Lamela as there's a clear example of a similar situation the season prior which worked out ok in the end.
 
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Rossi22 said:
"We know what a talented player he is and we do also understand how players need time to settle," Sherwood said.

"Erik’s needing that time to acclimatise to a new country and the tempo of the games, especially over that Christmas period where them come thick and fast.

“We’re going to take it nice and steady with him and I really want to put him on the stage when he’s ready to perform, rather than let people judge him when he’s half-cooked.

“He won’t be leaving on loan in this transfer window.”

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/453137/Tim-Sherwood-Tottenham-s-Erik-Lamela-not-for-sale
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Tim speaks sense yet again...
 
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billyiddo said:
It was similar with Lloris - EL and Cup games and then a tough full league debut away to Arsenal around a similar time to Lamela/City(iirc)

So up until that point (the City game) i don't think there's much to suggest any kind of ulterior motives with his handling of Lamela as there's a clear example of a similar situation the season prior which worked out ok in the end.
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Lloris got his league debut against Aston Villa. When he got the league start against Arsenal he was then made first choice following that game.

Lamela on the other hand was "chucked in at the deep end" against City and then dropped.

I don't think the two situations are all that similar.
 
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Mr_B said:
luxury player better suited to serie a, we should cut our losses, not one of baldini's better ploys
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How can he reach his potential when he does not have a run of games? He needs to be playing week in and week out.
 
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Catch 22: don't play him he's not ready / but he won't be ready if you don't play him.
 
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Rossi22 said:
Catch 22: don't play him he's not ready / but he won't be ready if you don't play him.
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He will more ready once he got used to London
He's a kid remember, just moved to a totally alien culture and new way of working. These things can take time to adjust to. Just because he a highly paid footballer doesn't mean his performance can't be affected by other factors.
Let the guy settle, learn the new country and new ways of doing his job. This a 30m investment we talking about, and managing that investment properly is the key to its success.
 
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You start by playing him when there's less pressure, either against easy opposition (cup games) or as a sub when we're winning comfortably. Then it's up to him to show he's ready for more.
 
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monkeybarry said:
He will more ready once he got used to London
He's a kid remember, just moved to a totally alien culture and new way of working. These things can take time to adjust to. Just because he a highly paid footballer doesn't mean his performance can't be affected by other factors.
Let the guy settle, learn the new country and new ways of doing his job. This a 30m investment we talking about, and managing that investment properly is the key to its success.
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Agree 100%
 
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Jordinho said:
You start by playing him when there's less pressure, either against easy opposition (cup games) or as a sub when we're winning comfortably. Then it's up to him to show he's ready for more.
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But when Soldado wasn't performing or Paulinho wasn't(which has been pretty much all season) they start anyway? Why does Lamela have to put in a world-beating performance in 15 minute cameos for him to get a run in the side? He put in a great performance against easy opposition in the cup(Sheriff) but he didn't start or even get on as a sub in the next league game. I'd wager that Lamela would be better off currently and be more "ready" now had he been playing consistently since he joined.
 
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Rossi22 said:
But when Soldado wasn't performing or Paulinho wasn't(which has been pretty much all season) they start anyway? Why does Lamela have to put in a world-beating performance in 15 minute cameos for him to get a run in the side? He put in a great performance against easy opposition in the cup(Sheriff) but he didn't start or even get on as a sub in the next league game. I'd wager that Lamela would be better off currently and be more "ready" now had he been playing consistently since he joined.
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Despite all the claims to the contrary, I think both Paulinho and Soldado have performed well. Certainly above average, but you also have to consider that Lamela has a lot of competition for a spot, arguably Paulinho is one. I don't believe in putting in world class individual performances, it's about playing for the team and not being a greedy, selfish **** like Ben Arfa. If you're getting the basic stuff right you stand a better chance IMO than you would trying to go past every player on the pitch. Other players have been performing better than Lamela and they don't deserve to be dropped.
 
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Rossi22 said:
But when Soldado wasn't performing or Paulinho wasn't(which has been pretty much all season) they start anyway? Why does Lamela have to put in a world-beating performance in 15 minute cameos for him to get a run in the side? He put in a great performance against easy opposition in the cup(Sheriff) but he didn't start or even get on as a sub in the next league game. I'd wager that Lamela would be better off currently and be more "ready" now had he been playing consistently since he joined.
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We've had two managers now saying that it is taking him a while to settle into life in England. I know that it isn't as much fun as conspiracy theories but maybe they were telling the truth.
 
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