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I liked Erik Lamela before it was cool

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Don't know. No. Don't know. They haven't released any injury info on Townsend either, doesn't mean there's something untoward happening.

Didn't they release details of Townsend injury when it happened? I.e. something like "Townsend has a hamstring injury and is expected to be out (or back in) x weeks"
 
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Didn't they release details of Townsend injury when it happened? I.e. something like "Townsend has a hamstring injury and is expected to be out (or back in) x weeks"

Yeah but he's reinjured himself since, after Spurs declared he would be back for Palace and Swansea, they haven't said anything though. I'm not saying for certain that Lamela is definitely injured but that Spurs aren't always entirely transparent with injury news.
 
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Your posts are very confusing and you have me doubting what I'm even supposed to be trying to argue but I'll reply to you on this one last time as it's becoming increasingly tedious.

- So the only thing that would be stopping them being amazing / huge successes is actually playing then?

Not the only thing, no, but the most important. You buy a football player to play football for you, if you don't allow them to do that then it's quite unlikely that they're going to be a big success for you - unless they have another hidden talent?

- okay i see your point. if you are an amazing talent all you need to have is the opportunity to show this, once given that opportunity you will most probably be a huge success?

This is more or less the same as the first point. No player is guaranteed success but given the right conditions and treatment, you give them a good chance of being just that. Lamela obviously needs to adapt to things outside of playing football given he's moved to a new country with a different way of life and language, he needs to be settled off the pitch for him to perform on it. No one knows how he's doing externally but even if everything was perfect for him and he was settled, he still needs time and opportunities on the pitch, that's where his workplace is, not at home.

- So assuming these players were given the opportunity to showcase their ability and they continuously didnt stand out or perform well enough to take someone else's place.....what then?

Is this what you think of Lamela then? He's been given an opportunity and failed to deliver? The answer to your question is that it would depend on the time and opportunities you've given to the player. For example, if we're concluding that a player doesn't deserve his place after three league starts in five months then I would consider that unfair, if a player had played ample amount of games over say two seasons and hadn't shown anything to justify him keeping other players out of the team then you'd have to look at maybe moving them on. It's just a shame that nowadays a player gets a couple of games rather than a couple of seasons.

- further more i take it that lamela hasnt been played or given an opportunity to show his much greater than standard prospect ablilties, because if he had...he would probably have turned in big time performances that would keep him in the first 11? is that right?

He does have "greater than standard prospect abilities", he's shown that in his short career elsewhere. That doesn't mean to say he will 100% definitely realise that here, it may take a run of 3 games, it may take 10, 20, 30 but I don't think you write him off when he's yet to even make consecutive starts. At least give a player a run of games before concluding anything.

My view on you is that you've come across as quite bitter with regards to Lamela for a few months now, it's like you're taking on this role to take him and his fans "down a peg or two". You seem to blame him for the money we've invested in him and blaming him for not turning in Messi-like performances on the rare occasion that he's been given a few minutes. I may have that completely wrong but that's how you've come across in this thread, whenever someone has something positive or constructive to say re. Lamela, you're always the first to offer up the opposite view.

okay so he is given opportunities...sub , starts whatever...he just hasnt taken them anywhere. see your comment made out like he was being targeted and deliberately being sabotaged for some reason, which i think is wrong

i dont think he has failed to deliver, its too early to tell , what i do know is that what he has done so far is not deserving of extreme praise and it isnt deserving of an automatic starting position in the first 11. i dont blame him for the 30 million , i just felt bad for him after seeing him a few times...that money is tight round his neck and i dont even think he has the shoulders to carry that kind of weight personally

having said that i would play either him or townsend ahead of soldado right now

anyway, i think we know where each other stand. thanks for the exchange
 
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Didn't they release details of Townsend injury when it happened? I.e. something like "Townsend has a hamstring injury and is expected to be out (or back in) x weeks"

They had to release that as Townsend pulled the hammy for all to see.
 
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I think the AVB thing could be correct. Since TS took over, most of our team have looked better and the football in general has improved. I know some will argue with that sentiment but given our chance conversion rate and the swagger we now see, I think it's a fair one. A young lad being told to go out and play and trust in their own ability is more likely to succeed than one hamstrung by tactics that half the team can't get to grips with. He is one of many players that has looked lost on the pitch at times, maybe now the whole team are singing from a simpler hymn sheet he will start to shine.
 
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many sources has said that Lamela shines more in an open game than a controlled and structured one

its actually why i thought the saints game could have been his break out game. he played much better in that league match than others, aside from the scum one where i thought he was very well disciplined and intelligent with his choices

definately sherwood would get more from him than AVB's style would have
 
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Just wanted to bump this up. Wondered if there had been any recent sightings, or if he has simply imploded or been a victim of auto cannabalism or something?
 
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Thats true, its just unfathomable that we spent 30 million on him; not because of his talent or lack of it, just the way he has(n't) been utilised. I just can't get myhead around it at all.
 
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:-k

Twitter / mixedknuts: I realized that I could finally plot Erik Lamela's output for #Roma last year. So so good for a 21-year-old. pic.twitter.com/pX88Zg9mGt
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I suppose its good news for him that his name hasn't been mentioned by SSN today

Agreed. Atleast he will have more time to prove his worth at Spurs. But not sure it is good news for Lamela as he might miss out on the World Cup place. Just can't see him getting much playing time under Sherwood .
 
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So I'm assuming he's still injured and yet in all the media reports I can find online all Sherwood comments upon are the injuries to both Townsend and Sandro and their estimated recovery times. So is he that much further behind those two on the recovery trail that Sherwood isn't commenting or is Sherwood just not saying anything fullstop.
 
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I have been very disappointed in Lamela but this injury is a shame we basically have Lennon, Siggy and Chadli offering us nothing on the wings and be a perfect time for him to step up and show us something. Hopefully at least we can get Townsend back soon.
 
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i actually dont think he's been injured

Me too.

Remember there was a pic where he was training (this was supposedly after recovering from injury). This was like 3 weeks ago....he then goes missing again and the Sherwood soundbites make it sound like he didn't even recover from the original injury despite the pics showing him training with the first team. They probably let him go to Italy or Argentina to get his mind right.
 
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