it might have been given, but in my opinion it would have been given - the sad thing is at every club most players would have done the same as Gale its normalised now that contact = penalty.
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Kyle Walker-Peters
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Daisuk
Dimitar Berbatov
Lovely little interview with the chap on the OS now. Comes across as a super humble down to earth guy. Very good news for us. I couldn't stop smiling watching it. 
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/new...-debut-at-Saudi Sportswashing Machine-130817/
"duh duh duh, Kyle Walker Peters"
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/new...-debut-at-Saudi Sportswashing Machine-130817/
"duh duh duh, Kyle Walker Peters"
nayenezgani
Jimmy Neighbour
Lovely little interview with the chap on the OS now. Comes across as a super humble down to earth guy. Very good news for us. I couldn't stop smiling watching it.
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/new...-debut-at-Saudi Sportswashing Machine-130817/
"duh duh duh, Kyle Walker Peters"
That's brilliant. He seems like a lovely young fella.
The likes of Walker and Rose could learn a thing or two from him.
DeleHarry
Jose Dominguez
Spur of the moment
Frederic Kanoute
Just watched it again in slo-mo and though it's always difficult to be 100% certain it did look like Gayle deliberately ran into KWP then took a dive. From the close up replay it also looks like Kyle recognises at the last moment he's not going to get there first and tries to avoid the contact in order not to concede the pen.
Had it been onside and given it would have been very harsh. More likely the ref would have penalised Gayle for diving but you never know.
NYSpur
Hossam Ghaly
I can tell you that he is just as nice in person. He and CCV were genuinely excited that I had included them in an album of player photos that I had them sign when they were here in NY. If anything, one worries that he appeared too nice for someone in the cut throat world of professional sport.
greatwhitenorf
Dean Richards
It was an interesting first game for him. No doubt, Rafa had KWP at the top of his pre-match tactics board. Apart from the Gayle incident, I thought his play could best be described as responsible.
He didn't take crazy chances but he did show glimpses of a creative mind in the attacking third. Can't say with certainity his predecessor would have had a better game either. Neither player had the benefit of playing this team last season. Chelsea will be a big test but after that, with all due respect, only Everton look to be a major concern in the following half dozen matches.
If he can gain some valuable experience early on without Spurs suffering anything calamitous, it could prove to be of huge benefit later in the season. There won't be an urgency to rush Trippier back and having a capable backup will lessen the temptation of taking liberties with Trippier once he gets back.
He didn't take crazy chances but he did show glimpses of a creative mind in the attacking third. Can't say with certainity his predecessor would have had a better game either. Neither player had the benefit of playing this team last season. Chelsea will be a big test but after that, with all due respect, only Everton look to be a major concern in the following half dozen matches.
If he can gain some valuable experience early on without Spurs suffering anything calamitous, it could prove to be of huge benefit later in the season. There won't be an urgency to rush Trippier back and having a capable backup will lessen the temptation of taking liberties with Trippier once he gets back.
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
I don't think Trippier *can* fully replace Walker - too different in terms of playing style and physical attributes (reasonably quick but nothing special versus lightning fast - short and somewhat slight versus built like a brick outhouse, and so on). Ditto KWP. It will mean adapting our play to compensate, and whether that's wise is an open question given that the previous system saw us get 86 points and a runners-up place.
On the other hand, signing someone like Toljan (who can play on both flanks), or Pereira (who can play and actually prefers playing as a winger) could lessen the need to make that shift, and given their versatility, would still allow us to spread our talent evenly across the squad instead of being overloaded in one particular area.
NaijaSpurs
Les Ferdinand
With his propensity to go forward the way he does I think he will make a better wing back than a full back. So when we go 3 at the back I think that is when he will really find his calling as he will be able to attack more knowing he has 3 centre backs and Wanyama covering.
I know it was only Saudi Sportswashing Machine but I have high hopes for this kid and why I understand why a number of you may still want us to buy a full back I just do not want one to block his progress. I would rather we get Sanchez who is primarily a centre back but can also play as a right back
I know it was only Saudi Sportswashing Machine but I have high hopes for this kid and why I understand why a number of you may still want us to buy a full back I just do not want one to block his progress. I would rather we get Sanchez who is primarily a centre back but can also play as a right back
parklane1
Tony Galvin
Thought he did well for his first Prem game, he was not up against much but what he had to do he did well and what i did like was that he seemed calm in what he did. He also put in a few decent crosses and was not afraid to run at his man. Long way to go for him but he looks very promising.
Adam Smith never looked like he was going to make a top class RB. Mind you, he fared better than Ifil who's career seems to have just petered out:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Ifil
ricky2tricky4city
Steffen Freund
I agree.......i think he did just run into him.
Weird how it can be fine lines, (if onside)imagine if a pen had been given (rightly or wrongly) how different the post match sentiment would be.
NaijaSpurs
Les Ferdinand
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ttino-spurs-debut-Saudi Sportswashing Machine
In January 2016 Kyle Walker-Peters had a decision to make. Tottenham had agreed that he could join up with Roda JC, a lower mid-table side in the Dutch top flight, on their mid-season training camp in Portugal. Both parties would spend the week looking at one another with the idea of coming to a loan arrangement and, all being well, it would bring a first taste of competitive senior football to a player still three months short of his 19th birthday.
A temporary move never materialised and the suggestion when Walker-Peters returned to London was that the number of high balls Roda played was a stumbling block for the right-back. Any fit has to be an appropriate one so instead he slotted back into Spurs’ under-21 side, where he had stood out in the previous 12 months, continued working and waited for his chance.
It finally came at Saudi Sportswashing Machine on Sunday and Walker-Peters’ patience could hardly have been better rewarded. He played with the energy and clarity that have become the hallmarks of this Tottenham side and, even if the man-of-the-match award after their 2-0 win was perhaps generous, his performance left little doubt that all those hours spent working to Mauricio Pochettino’s template had been well spent.
Walker-Peters operated just as Pochettino asks his full-backs to, wide and high, supporting the attack sensibly while dealing tenaciously enough with the occasional threat posed by Christian Atsu. It was not swashbuckling stuff but it was composed and competent; after a buildup dominated by the frustrations of Danny Rose, there was plenty to be said for such a lack of fuss.
The timing of his debut provided an instructive glimpse of the way Tottenham handle their young talent nowadays. While it is true that Walker-Peters benefited from Kieran Trippier’s injury, sustained against Juventus the previous week, and the departure of his near-namesake Kyle Walker, it is equally fair to say Pochettino had planned on having him around.
“We expect that they will be involved next season more than they were this season,” he said in May of Walker-Peters and two of his peers, Josh Onomah and Cameron Carter-Vickers. Walker-Peters had been integrated into the first-team squad as 2016-17 progressed, sitting on the substitutes’ bench for the FA Cup wins over Aston Villa and Wycombe, and the current campaign was always likely to be an important one for his prospects.
That is particularly the case because it may raise an eyebrow that, at 20, he had needed to wait so long for any kind of league football. He is at an age by which many footballers have already been swilled around the loan system several times, and one by which those at the Premier League’s bigger clubs generally tend to risk dropping through the cracks if they have not made some kind of first-team bow. But Pochettino prefers to keep his better young players close; when Football League sides expressed interest in borrowing Walker-Peters last season, with Wigan Athletic among those interested, Tottenham said no. He was far closer to a breakthrough than he had been at the time of the Roda trial and the priority was to steep the player in Pochettino’s methods.
A similar approach worked in the case of Harry Winks, who was 18 when he made his Tottenham debut but did not start a Premier League game until six weeks short of his 21st birthday. Winks was never loaned out either and was ready to fit in seamlessly when fully involved last season. The likelihood is that Walker-Peters will be given the opportunity to establish himself similarly, probably as Trippier’s understudy initially but – given the workload demanded of Spurs full-backs – rotated into the side often enough to complete his step up.
He began his football life as an attacker and shone in Spurs’ age-group teams through his speed and verve; the aim will be to bring more of that out of him after a debut that was understandably conservative when he neared the box. It may eventually be to his advantage, particularly if Rose’s situation sours further, that he is able to play on the opposite flank too.
Walker-Peters’ emergence is the latest positive reflection on a Tottenham academy whose fruits were available for wider perusal during the summer when he, Onomah and the midfielder Marcus Edwards all played important roles in England’s Under-20 World Cup win.
Onomah, now 20 as well, has since gone on loan to Aston Villa; Edwards, compared to a young Lionel Messi by Pochettino, played against Gillingham in last season’s League Cup at the age of 17. There remain high hopes for the centre-back Cameron Carter-Vickers, who has represented the USA youth sides, while the flair of the 18-year-old forward Samuel Shashoua has already sustained several YouTube showreels.
It is Walker-Peters who currently occupies the limelight, though, and perhaps it was clever of Pochettino to state before the Saudi Sportswashing Machine game that a start for the youngster might be “too much for him”.
Whether that was intended to manage external expectations or ensure the appropriate response from his player, the tactic paid off. Any doubts about Walker-Peters’ stomach for the battle may have been erased within six seconds of kick-off, when he challenged Ayoze Pérez for a Jonjo Shelvey diagonal and, his 5ft 9in frame leaping high against the Saudi Sportswashing Machine striker, came out comfortably on top. Working with Roda’s long balls may have been too much but Pochettino seems to have had the right effect all on his own.
In January 2016 Kyle Walker-Peters had a decision to make. Tottenham had agreed that he could join up with Roda JC, a lower mid-table side in the Dutch top flight, on their mid-season training camp in Portugal. Both parties would spend the week looking at one another with the idea of coming to a loan arrangement and, all being well, it would bring a first taste of competitive senior football to a player still three months short of his 19th birthday.
A temporary move never materialised and the suggestion when Walker-Peters returned to London was that the number of high balls Roda played was a stumbling block for the right-back. Any fit has to be an appropriate one so instead he slotted back into Spurs’ under-21 side, where he had stood out in the previous 12 months, continued working and waited for his chance.
It finally came at Saudi Sportswashing Machine on Sunday and Walker-Peters’ patience could hardly have been better rewarded. He played with the energy and clarity that have become the hallmarks of this Tottenham side and, even if the man-of-the-match award after their 2-0 win was perhaps generous, his performance left little doubt that all those hours spent working to Mauricio Pochettino’s template had been well spent.
Walker-Peters operated just as Pochettino asks his full-backs to, wide and high, supporting the attack sensibly while dealing tenaciously enough with the occasional threat posed by Christian Atsu. It was not swashbuckling stuff but it was composed and competent; after a buildup dominated by the frustrations of Danny Rose, there was plenty to be said for such a lack of fuss.
The timing of his debut provided an instructive glimpse of the way Tottenham handle their young talent nowadays. While it is true that Walker-Peters benefited from Kieran Trippier’s injury, sustained against Juventus the previous week, and the departure of his near-namesake Kyle Walker, it is equally fair to say Pochettino had planned on having him around.
“We expect that they will be involved next season more than they were this season,” he said in May of Walker-Peters and two of his peers, Josh Onomah and Cameron Carter-Vickers. Walker-Peters had been integrated into the first-team squad as 2016-17 progressed, sitting on the substitutes’ bench for the FA Cup wins over Aston Villa and Wycombe, and the current campaign was always likely to be an important one for his prospects.
That is particularly the case because it may raise an eyebrow that, at 20, he had needed to wait so long for any kind of league football. He is at an age by which many footballers have already been swilled around the loan system several times, and one by which those at the Premier League’s bigger clubs generally tend to risk dropping through the cracks if they have not made some kind of first-team bow. But Pochettino prefers to keep his better young players close; when Football League sides expressed interest in borrowing Walker-Peters last season, with Wigan Athletic among those interested, Tottenham said no. He was far closer to a breakthrough than he had been at the time of the Roda trial and the priority was to steep the player in Pochettino’s methods.
A similar approach worked in the case of Harry Winks, who was 18 when he made his Tottenham debut but did not start a Premier League game until six weeks short of his 21st birthday. Winks was never loaned out either and was ready to fit in seamlessly when fully involved last season. The likelihood is that Walker-Peters will be given the opportunity to establish himself similarly, probably as Trippier’s understudy initially but – given the workload demanded of Spurs full-backs – rotated into the side often enough to complete his step up.
He began his football life as an attacker and shone in Spurs’ age-group teams through his speed and verve; the aim will be to bring more of that out of him after a debut that was understandably conservative when he neared the box. It may eventually be to his advantage, particularly if Rose’s situation sours further, that he is able to play on the opposite flank too.
Walker-Peters’ emergence is the latest positive reflection on a Tottenham academy whose fruits were available for wider perusal during the summer when he, Onomah and the midfielder Marcus Edwards all played important roles in England’s Under-20 World Cup win.
Onomah, now 20 as well, has since gone on loan to Aston Villa; Edwards, compared to a young Lionel Messi by Pochettino, played against Gillingham in last season’s League Cup at the age of 17. There remain high hopes for the centre-back Cameron Carter-Vickers, who has represented the USA youth sides, while the flair of the 18-year-old forward Samuel Shashoua has already sustained several YouTube showreels.
It is Walker-Peters who currently occupies the limelight, though, and perhaps it was clever of Pochettino to state before the Saudi Sportswashing Machine game that a start for the youngster might be “too much for him”.
Whether that was intended to manage external expectations or ensure the appropriate response from his player, the tactic paid off. Any doubts about Walker-Peters’ stomach for the battle may have been erased within six seconds of kick-off, when he challenged Ayoze Pérez for a Jonjo Shelvey diagonal and, his 5ft 9in frame leaping high against the Saudi Sportswashing Machine striker, came out comfortably on top. Working with Roda’s long balls may have been too much but Pochettino seems to have had the right effect all on his own.
Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
Give it 6 or 7 years and he will be demanding a pay rise because £145,000 a week is not enough to live on.
Bedfordspurs
Vinnie Samways
What I liked was he was an outlet wide and high which is what Walker and Trippier excel at too so we didn't change our system. That's clearly the benefit of keeping kids we rate here longer if we believe the can get games
Lemonade Money
Les Medley
Let's hope so.
I actually find it sad that he won the MOTM. He wasn't MOTM, Eriksen was, or even Dele. A successful debut would be more than enough to remember, but he got an MOTM on top of it. Which means he no longer can hunger for his first MOTM-award. So much for TV-pundits calling it.