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Mauricio Pochettino - Sacked

The Athletic claim to have the inside story on how relationships inside the Tottenham dressing room deteriorated in the last six months of Mauricio Pochettino's reign.

Apparently players would avoid eye contact with the Argentine for fear of inciting his wrath as he became increasingly isolated and angry.

This may well have been nonsense but if it is true, then it was only ever going to end in one way...
 
Love Poch. It's been amazing. Some incredible performances / results, regular CL, getting to the final, beating some of the big boys in the league and a glimmer of the title. My personal favourites were beating Real Madrid at Wembley, the 4-1 against Liverpool and obviously the City / Ajax CL wins.

He's also been a complete gentleman the entire time and someone the club can be proud to have had in the hot seat.

However... we've also been brick for absolutely ages now.

We were starting to flag last season in general [I can remember complaining this time last year] and something very strange seemed to happen after the Ajax semi-final. Poch went from screaming with joy, to looking fairly unbothered in the run up to the game, coupled with our limp performance in the final. Then comments about "change my title to coach", starting the season so light at RB (and arguably CM) and how he's still waiting to hear the new 4 year plan.

I personally think MP lost the passion for it and wanted to either have big bucks to take his career to the next level or leave to somewhere that can offer him that.

He's more than overachieved, but if a manger doesn't have the passions then that rubs off on the players imo [as we are seeing this season]

Thanks for everything Mauricio, but I think Levy had little choice.
 
Munich or Madrid are my bets. Could be a very interesting reunion in the CL knock outs...

Munich would be very good for Poch. Man Utd I also feel would be a good fit. Real Madrid would be horrible and I still believe as I have done all along that they'd eat him alive there.

He won't go to Arsenal, its not his personality. And I don't think he'd go to Chelsea either.
 
It's clear Poch had lost the dressing room, but also that he had fell out of love with the job and/or the club some time ago.

This was massively transparent to the players and affected performances. Sadly, there was no route forward.

I'm not particularly taken in or swerved by the social media teams of the players now hurrying themselves to make their clients look good with emotional heartfelt epitaphs. This barely disguises the fact that these are the same said players who have phoned it in for months whilst simultaneously briefing their agents on which brick stories to leak out.
 
I fear for the youth if Jose comes in, we need someone who is going to bring up the likes of Parrot, Sessegnon etc.

I have not had a chance to comment on Poch's sacking but I saw your post and i feel exactly the same thing about bringing through our talented younger players.
They are hardly going to get a wiff in the first Team are they?
 
Mate, you can disagree with anything you like and there are always exceptions to the rule. However, there is absolutely nothing that has happened at Spurs in the last week that is even vaguely a surprise, the surprise would have been Poch lasting the season (and you know I've stated that before)

I don't have any omnipotent view mate, just 20+ years of experiences that made it very clear to me he was a dead man walking and in my opinion the results created only one outcome. And the fact that you and others continue to point to circumstances, I'm sorry I come off as a dingdong here mate, but again in my experiences, nobody at this level gives a brick, there are no excuses (stadium, spending, injuries, nothing matters). They might like you, they might respect you, but failure or even limited success always ends one way.
What is it that you do by the way?

I am thankful that most of my investors (many of which are extremely successful and wealthy) didn’t abandon me in a bad year after several good ones.
 
I like Mks comparison to Jol, it feels very much on the nose.

When Jol went it was a terribly sad day (not to mention terribly managed), but it was also time.

I think thats why it was sadness for me, and not anger. And its the same with Pochettino. Im not angry, and I think a lot of the bile being spouted is really quite unnecessary - though I do understand emotions run high.

No, Im just sad.

IMHO, all the talk of mitigations, compromises, distractions - it is still BS. Its all noise around the actual point. That being, Poch just wasnt doing the job well enough.

I think the 5 years prior, building to the crescendo in Madrid, broke him. And thats really what it came down to.

I think he invested so much of himself into the job, he eventually ran out of steam.

Which is really quite remarkable, and its why Id never slag him off or show any ill will toward him.

And its why Im so sad its time for him to go, Id have loved nothing more than for him to find the juice to go again and keep on progressing.

I think he and the club progressed an incredible amount in his time, for which we can only be grateful. We found each other at the absolute ideal moment, and for 5 years it was a beautiful thing. I dont know of another manager that could have helped us into the new stadium like he has, while maintaining CL football, while playing winning football and actually earning some genuine respect in the game.

Its a fantastic achievement and one Ill forever be grateful for.

Put it this way, we just hired the most decorated/successful manager in the modern era to replace him. The idea of such 5 years ago is laughable. THATS the difference Pochettino has made in his time here.

Ive said for a while, I think he needs a break, to recharge and rejuvenate, and I really hope he takes it rather than jumping to another club too quickly.

Then I look forward to following his career with interest and affection, and can only wish him well.
This might be the first post of yours ever that I have agreed completely with.... maybe I underestimated you when lumping you in with Scara that time? ;)

*edit.... I do feel he deserved more time and resources after what he did with us, but I can see why Levy panicked as he did.
 
Will be weird if he's appointed by München in time for the return clash with us. But wish him all the best, obviously. He'll do well somewhere, no doubt.
 
It will be for one of the European power houses I’m sure. He’s dining at the top table now, quite rightly.

It went stale with us, but that doesn’t mean with a bit of time off and fresh surroundings/ faces he won’t be compéting in the later stages of the Champions League again soon. He looked burnt out in August after, supposedly, having a summer break, I thought then we could be in for a long season if he couldn’t switch the light back on.
 
Or having built the foundations installing a winner with a proven pedigree who we are now ready and willing to back in the market?
Mate we fundamentally disagree here

- Poch is the owner/responsable/accountable for on field results, this is not finding someone to pin blame on, it is literally in his job measurables.
- It was actually important to pull the trigger because anything else sends a message that lack of results/failure will be tolerated (something the players seem to have taken on already)
- And not everyone in these organizations is constantly up for review, it's specific high risk/reward roles and usually people are paid as such (hence why Poch will walk away with a lot of cash)
- Many years ago I believed like you and some people here, but time and time again I've seen said companies make the call and the results both short and long term improve (change for change sake, sending message about tolerance for failure, or just pushing people as hard as you can till they burn out and swap new/fresh in, doesn't matter what, same result)

We will see re future ..


Your point on a refresh is valid, but would carry more weight if you agreed/admitted that the same could be said of the playing staff.
 
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I fully expected this and the fall in performances. It's all about the CL final loss. Tthat took all the steam out of Poch and the players. It emotinally gutted them. We will still be feeling this hangover when Mou takes over. it will linger for some time yet.
 
I have not had a chance to comment on Poch's sacking but I saw your post and i feel exactly the same thing about bringing through our talented younger players.
They are hardly going to get a wiff in the first Team are they?
To be fair they weren’t anyway.... and we don’t actually have too many young players close to being ready anyway.
 
I'm hoping he goes to PSG or Bayern. He should win things at both clubs and neither team would be in need for Harry Kane to follow him there.
 
Pochettinos mate has his say:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50483190

I was convinced Mauricio Pochettino was not going to quit Tottenham but his future was not in his hands and, although I cannot understand many of the reasons behind his sacking, it has also felt like the end of the road for a while.

And, in a way, it may feel like a liberation for him and his coaching staff.

Pochettino is a fighter and wanted to continue fighting, but in the end whether he stayed or went was always going to depend on the club. He has paid the price for recent results, results which are the consequence of a decay of the squad predicted by the Argentine 18 months ago.

For more than a year now he has been trying to manage some difficult situations at Spurs, and 18 defeats in 2019 tells you a story which goes beyond what happened this season.

You could see that it would not end well unless things changed properly at the club in the summer - and big time. But they really didn't.

At the heart of it all is the two transfer windows from the end of January 2018 until the summer of 2019 when they did not sign anyone.

Pochettino had warned the club what was happening and chairman Daniel Levy decided it wasn't the time to invest in new players because his priority has been to be in the top four with minimum spend.

Pochettino, who was not asking for more money but quick and clever resolutions in the market, couldn't do the job to the best of his abilities.

It meant a change in the dynamic of the relationship between the two most pivotal men at the club.

When they first met each other and began working together they didn't fully understand each other's ideas of exactly what kind of club they both wanted, but then after a well-documented trip to Argentina there was much more synergy. Levy understood what Pochettino wanted and Pochettino knew the limits he had to work with.

But it got to the point that when the recycling of the squad wasn't forthcoming, that synergy wasn't continued and there was a logical frustration on Pochettino's side.

I wouldn't say the pair are friends as such - there was a professional relationship but it became clear the priorities for both men started being different. A new stadium should mean a more ambitious club, the manager thought. But Levy did not move an inch from the club intentions.

Maybe Pochettino should have left in the summer but that was never going to happen. If Levy did not think there was a way back or out, the only solution was to get rid of him and his coaching staff.

The compensation will be more than the £12m reported, as he and the five members of his coaching staff have more than three years left on their contracts.

Levy was clearly not scared of that and bringing a new leader to a project that cannot compete in the short or medium term with the richest clubs in the country. It obviously does not faze him.

There has been talk of player discontent but I don't think Pochettino lost the dressing room.

He took a couple of steps back from certain situations because in some cases he could not punish or replace players as there was nobody to replace them with.

But the same faces and the same voices do create erosion after a while. To reproduce what Spurs did between 2015 and 2018, the best version of the team, players had to come and go, and the club either did not agree with some movements or could not get rid of players.

Everyone can see that Spurs getting to the Champions League final in June was a miracle, maximising the potential of a side that was already on the decline.

You have heard the likes of Harry Kane asking for more from the players, frustrated because things that had been learned were abandoned.

But things were not happening and performances were not the best, for different reasons.

Some players were attracted to other clubs and distracted, while others had reached their potential and have declined, but are still around. Spurs are not sacking him because the players asked for it or the relationship deteriorated. Nothing of the sort.

This is a board decision based on a professional relationship where, between Pochettino and Levy, there was not much more to say to each other.

It was a divorce that many people can relate to - it gets to the point where what else can you say, how can it improve? You know what you want to do but you're not heard anymore.

Pochettino's next step, I think, will be to rest. This period has been very demanding.

He and his coaching staff know options will open up for them once they return home. He has admirers at Bayern Munich, Juventus and Real Madrid.

But one of the things that stopped him going anywhere before now is the fact there was compensation to pay.

Real and Juve have considered him but having to negotiate a price for his services with Levy put them off.

Generally when a sacking happens the club can add a clause in which they stop the manager going to certain teams. In exchange for a big compensation, could Levy add that he doesn't go to Chelsea, Arsenal or Manchester United?

United did want him when they appointed Jose Mourinho but they are backing Ole Gunnar Solskjaer strongly, so that option seems gone for now.

Like the last day of the best summer, it feels like Spurs have left behind a romance that will be unforgettable, but that could not be taken into autumn.
 
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