mick cooper
Neil Sullivan
it was pretty grim, but no-one got booked, no-one got hurt (not that I noticed) and no-one had to work too hard to achieve the win.
but we won, so - yay!
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**OMT** TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR FC VS. Watford FC** FA CUP 4th Round
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it was pretty grim, but no-one got booked, no-one got hurt (not that I noticed) and no-one had to work too hard to achieve the win.
but we won, so - yay!
At least Foy is equally bad for both teams. He let some stuff pass that other refs would have given freekicks for. He just likes a physical approach.
spurspinter1
Steve Carr
The problem is with VDV's movement if we're not playing well then it can get a bit dog chasing a car-esque, which by himself doesn't do much and knackers him out pretty quickly as well.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Poor performance, but always good to get a win.
Last night highlighted two related things for me:
1. Parker and another defensive midfielder in the centre means trouble. Seen it with Sandro before and now with Livermore. We actually did alright in the first half and at least dominated possession even if Modric played more wayward passes in 45 minutes than he's done in all the other games so far this year combined. When Modric went off and with Lennon sticking wide left in the 2nd half we were unable to keep possession and pass the ball through our midfield. We had to resort to a lot of long balls and Ade didn't make the ball stick up front, put us under a lot of pressure. Also Parker/Livermore and our defenders played quite a few risky balls that lead to chances for Watford, situations where Modric/Hudd would have most likely found much better passing options.
2. We sorely missed Ekotto. Related to the first point, but he gives us so much in our build-up play and always wants and gets the ball. No one in our backline is anywhere near as comfortable on the ball as he is. We become ridiculously easy to force into a long ball game when he's missing and we have no creative central midfielder.
Last night highlighted two related things for me:
1. Parker and another defensive midfielder in the centre means trouble. Seen it with Sandro before and now with Livermore. We actually did alright in the first half and at least dominated possession even if Modric played more wayward passes in 45 minutes than he's done in all the other games so far this year combined. When Modric went off and with Lennon sticking wide left in the 2nd half we were unable to keep possession and pass the ball through our midfield. We had to resort to a lot of long balls and Ade didn't make the ball stick up front, put us under a lot of pressure. Also Parker/Livermore and our defenders played quite a few risky balls that lead to chances for Watford, situations where Modric/Hudd would have most likely found much better passing options.
2. We sorely missed Ekotto. Related to the first point, but he gives us so much in our build-up play and always wants and gets the ball. No one in our backline is anywhere near as comfortable on the ball as he is. We become ridiculously easy to force into a long ball game when he's missing and we have no creative central midfielder.
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
Yet another glaring example of how much we rely on pace and width, and how outside of Bale and Lennon we have none.
Without proper wingers our performance was less than half of what we normally achieve.
We need proper back up - have done for a long time and my guess is will we still be left waiting come Wednesday morning.
Livermore impressed me. I have in the past written him off as not good enough. Never doubted his effort or commitment, but his quality. More and more these days his composure, awareness, touch and passing impress me a great deal.
Pienaar was crap, again. The worst of a bad bunch so its not like he is being singled out.
Livermore, Walker were the best performers. VDV, Dawson were ok. The rest were poor.
A bad day at the office, but a result, so Im happy over all.
I just hope we dont waste the opportunity to strengthen obvious frailties
Without proper wingers our performance was less than half of what we normally achieve.
We need proper back up - have done for a long time and my guess is will we still be left waiting come Wednesday morning.
Livermore impressed me. I have in the past written him off as not good enough. Never doubted his effort or commitment, but his quality. More and more these days his composure, awareness, touch and passing impress me a great deal.
Pienaar was crap, again. The worst of a bad bunch so its not like he is being singled out.
Livermore, Walker were the best performers. VDV, Dawson were ok. The rest were poor.
A bad day at the office, but a result, so Im happy over all.
I just hope we dont waste the opportunity to strengthen obvious frailties
Nayim, Livermore was ok, his touch from Dawson's shocking pass was a disaster and really we should have conceded from that. Walker is possession was absolutely tragic last night. Awful.
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
Im not saying he was better than ok, rather he was better than the rest. More an indictment of them than over praise of him.
That said it seems only fair to comment that in recent weeks his general quality has been a lot higher than I had given him credit for so I should recognise that.
That said it seems only fair to comment that in recent weeks his general quality has been a lot higher than I had given him credit for so I should recognise that.
Agree, I like Livermore's attitude. Seems spot on. Think he could prove to be a very useful player to have. I said previously, he seems the type that will do what his manager wants.
Hootnow
Jermaine Jenas
I thought Livermore was a player would look out of his depth in the premier league and wouldn't make more than 10 appearances for our first team, absolute maximum. Been proven wrong on both counts so far. Still don't think he'll be within the squad in 2 seasons time but he's already gone well beyond my expectations of him so fair play to him, he's doing well this season and fully deserves Redknapp's faith in him.
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
Should say as well - thought Sordel was a real handful - looked quality
yiddo2786
Steed Malbranque
He just chose the wrong name from his "List of Spurs employees I hate"
thfcsteff
George Hunt
...imagine what I'm like in full verbal flight, ooooooh! ;-)
the Pessimist
Fraizer Campbell
didn't see the game......
was modric injuried / why was he taken off at ht ?
was modric injuried / why was he taken off at ht ?
Modric THFC
Jimmy McCormick
According to Redknapp he was sick during the week.
He played like he didn't wanna be there.
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
Well actually, according to Harry, Harry had picked Modric for the team before being then told Modric had been ill in the week. Such is the strength of communication within the management team.