Lost Mango
Pascal Chimbonda
Who were the last managers who could do that?
This was my issue with people like Mourinho and Conte - 'world class' managers but only if they had exactly the squad they wanted and lots of money to spend.
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Who were the last managers who could do that?
This was my issue with people like Mourinho and Conte - 'world class' managers but only if they had exactly the squad they wanted and lots of money to spend.
Nobody is taking it out of context, you literally said that you need to elite players per position to finish 4th/5th. We've done that multiple times and have never had 2 elite players per position, we've rarely had 1 per position never mind 2.
Mrs Vert
Alan Hutton
Ok thanks!
Mrs Vert
Alan Hutton
I meant winning games in last minutes etc. Something that isn't happening that often this season!
As for Bton and Forest. It helps that we, villa, and Saudi Sportswashing Machine, utd are having a mare
glorygloryeze
Tom Huddlestone
I know...but no harm in wishing on a star, eh...
K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Jack Jull
I know it's a radical statement but Brighton, Fulham are capable of upsetting anyone and Ipswich aren't a bad team. There are no easy games.
Mikey10
Steffen Iversen
No doubt. But any team seriously chasing European qualification has surely got to be looking for more than 2 points from that combination of games.
Nobody has two elite players for every position. Even City don't. Look at how they've fallen off a cliff since Rodri was injured. If you're them you can't buy another Rodri and expect them to be happy waiting for their chance from the bench. Same with Haaland, thet had to let Alvarez go in the summer because he wasnt willing to play second fiddle. They've also missed his goals this season. You'll never manage a squad where you don't have a drop off due to injuries/fixture congestion.
Are we seriously chasing European qualification? I've said from the early games we will finish about 10th (maybe 1 or 2 higher, maybe 1 or 2 lower). Nothing I've seen since makes me change my mind, although the clear ability to give very good teams a hiding does make our complete inability to be consistent more infuriating than it should be.
braineclipse
Terry Dyson
I think this is a very good point if I understand you correctly.
We need a squad of players that all fit the system well and are ready to do a good job in that system.
Mostly our strongest 11 does that (I have some question marks about the fit to the system for Son as well as Bissouma and Bentancur). We have strengthened our squad too in that regard, but still not at the point where we have the options we need. But we have players that can develop into becoming those players in quite a few positions.
Mikey10
Steffen Iversen
Given the money spent, and the general expectations of the board, I'd say we are absolutely chasing European qualification. In fact, I'd say it's the current raison d'etre of the club.
If Ange doesn't achieve it this season then I think he'll be gone - and I wouldn't rule out the trigger being pulled with a couple of months of the season to go if it looks like a new manager might give a lift to get us into the top 6, if we're not already there.
We're talking about our immediate goals, not winning the league - that's obviously what we need to be working towards wrt squad building, but in the interim we should be able to progress and be competitive still
I think Kane would have stayed if certain promises given to him were kept. For instance building a team that was a serious prospect at challenging for honours.
He had a handshake deal with Levy and Levy lied to him. Simple as that. It's no wonder he left as soon as he could and the fact that he went to Munich shows what a class act he is and the respect he still has for the fans. In football terms it's nothing short of criminal to lose a generational talent such as Kane.
DeanoAustin
Les Ferdinand
What handshake deal?
It's very hard to keep a player his entire career. We had Harry for his best years and lost him abroad for a decent fee. That means Levy did pretty well for the club in my book.
Kane accuses Levy of broken promises as Spurs snub £125 Man City bid
Harry Kane believes chairman Daniel Levy has broken a promise to let him leave Tottenham this summer, and Sportsmail can reveal the latest developments which have left the striker furious.
It was naïve at best of Kane to trust Levy but he was sold a pup. Levy just lies to everyone. Mainly us tbf.
DeanoAustin
Les Ferdinand
So you've one side of the story and you're condemning Levy for holding Kane to his contract and then damning him for letting Kane go.Kane accuses Levy of broken promises as Spurs snub £125 Man City bid
Harry Kane believes chairman Daniel Levy has broken a promise to let him leave Tottenham this summer, and Sportsmail can reveal the latest developments which have left the striker furious.www.dailymail.co.uk
It was naïve at best of Kane to trust Levy but he was sold a pup. Levy just lies to everyone. Mainly us tbf.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
kb 1984
Andy Gray
Kane would have gone to city a year earlier if they had coughed up 100 mill. He went to Bayern because the met the asking price.
If utd or city had met the 80 million asking price he would have left for them instead of Bayern he didn't go to Bayern for us fans
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braineclipse
Terry Dyson
Kane imo stayed a lot longer than he would have done pre Levy or early on under Levy.
From the one who shall not be named to Sheringham, Berbatov, Bale and Modric. Our best players have been leaving us sooner or later because we're not an elite club.
It's definitely not all thanks to Levy that Kane stayed as long as he did, but had we not developed as a club as we've done under Levy I think Kane would have left earlier.
Kane is mostly a success story for the club. The next step is making the next success story even more successful.
From the one who shall not be named to Sheringham, Berbatov, Bale and Modric. Our best players have been leaving us sooner or later because we're not an elite club.
It's definitely not all thanks to Levy that Kane stayed as long as he did, but had we not developed as a club as we've done under Levy I think Kane would have left earlier.
Kane is mostly a success story for the club. The next step is making the next success story even more successful.
I think the larger point is actually backing a genuinely world class, once in a generation player. Have the guts to back a manager and a player.
But he didn't. He hired 3 managers who were useless for the club and bought absolute garbage. It's not a surprise a player who wants to win things leaves Tottenham.