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Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

Grays_1890 said:
The wider we, I didn't label you

I hate the cnut so I am not on my own about anything, facts were he was painted as a pantomime legend to have a drink with by a fair few, he was Teflon till his own part turned on him. Many would not have a word said against him on here for sure

The Jennifer Arcuri story was hardly met with any kind of shock or outrage
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Grays_1890 said:
Hahah I don't get why people are taking that so personally, I am not pointing any finger at individuals.

But there was a wider view on Boris that what ever he did wrong till the end was seen a a jovial jack the lad who people wanted to buy a pint for. The scandals that followed him before he even became PM would have been the death of many a politician, he seemingly carried that on as a bade of honour with many.
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If you have friends who think Bozo was a 'jovial jack the lad' worth having a pint with... then block and delete their numbers.
 
On Boris Johnson being a good bloke or not, we don't actually know. What is presented in public is a character. A lot of those flames are fanned by Johnson himself, but there's also a distinct dislike of Johnson in particular quarters, particularly due to Brexit and the whole divisiveness that surrounded that issue. What i can say i know for sure is that: Johnson has had many female partners/wives and children to various of them, and that background would be ripe for material if he was, quote, "a bad person". None of his proper exes or children have come out with anything drastically negative. Another fact is that he has retained many very close and extremely loyal friends, even in the rough and tumble of politics, such as Michael Gove. There are others that have worked with him that don't have very good words to say, like Dominic Cummings, but i suspect that's partly to do with a particularly bad and bitter fall out at a point in time during the stress of the pandemic as if Cummings had developed his current opinion quickly, I very much doubt he'd have followed Johnson in multiple job roles by accepting the tory party campaign job after the brexit campaign job and then the government rolle having previously worked with Johnson twice by that point.

So I suspect actually Johnson is quite a good bloke overall but as a human has many flaws and some of those are particularly exposed in certain pressure situations.
 
So we have the Bank of England's verdict on the government's first 7 months of economic policy: UK growth forecast slashed from 1.5% to 0.7% and inflation projected to climb to 4%. As I've said inflation alone will wipe out any public services investment planned as any uplift in funding will just maintain the status quo or slow the decline. *Slow clap*
 
Kompakted said:
So we have the Bank of England's verdict on the government's first 7 months of economic policy: UK growth forecast slashed from 1.5% to 0.7% and inflation projected to climb to 4%. As I've said inflation alone will wipe out any public services investment planned as any uplift in funding will just maintain the status quo or slow the decline. *Slow clap*
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What a job this brick show in charge is doing !!!
 
Kompakted said:
On Boris Johnson being a good bloke or not, we don't actually know. What is presented in public is a character. A lot of those flames are fanned by Johnson himself, but there's also a distinct dislike of Johnson in particular quarters, particularly due to Brexit and the whole divisiveness that surrounded that issue. What i can say i know for sure is that: Johnson has had many female partners/wives and children to various of them, and that background would be ripe for material if he was, quote, "a bad person". None of his proper exes or children have come out with anything drastically negative. Another fact is that he has retained many very close and extremely loyal friends, even in the rough and tumble of politics, such as Michael Gove. There are others that have worked with him that don't have very good words to say, like Dominic Cummings, but i suspect that's partly to do with a particularly bad and bitter fall out at a point in time during the stress of the pandemic as if Cummings had developed his current opinion quickly, I very much doubt he'd have followed Johnson in multiple job roles by accepting the tory party campaign job after the brexit campaign job and then the government rolle having previously worked with Johnson twice by that point.

So I suspect actually Johnson is quite a good bloke overall but as a human has many flaws and some of those are particularly exposed in certain pressure situations.
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He may well be a good guy, who knows? My point was probably more to the fact that despite a 4 year affair which was deemed a conflict of interest he became PM (so popularity with the public was there..............not based on what my mates thought which some weirdo suggested), that in itself paints a level of teflon with him, alot of it IMO bought on by his own persona which you touched on as character. I think his self created character meant many over looked his indiscretions until the bitter end when it was his colleagues and not the public that pulled the plug.
 
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Kompakted said:
So we have the Bank of England's verdict on the government's first 7 months of economic policy: UK growth forecast slashed from 1.5% to 0.7% and inflation projected to climb to 4%. As I've said inflation alone will wipe out any public services investment planned as any uplift in funding will just maintain the status quo or slow the decline. *Slow clap*
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Do you know the 5 things that create growth?

1) War
2) Colonisation
3) Slavery
4) Mass immigration
5) Environmental distruction

Which of these would you like to see more of?

Growth isnt a natural state, its a destructive state.
 
Rorschach said:
Sure, broadening your mind is good, but as we have no scalable solutions for flying, doing one of the most harmful things to the climate shouldn't be encouraged—quite the opposite. So for now we need less of it, not more. If they come up with some emission-free aviation fuel then fly to your heart's content.
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I love the idea of sleeper trains using the rail network at night to speed people to the south or France or Spain. Would be so awesome. The logistics are not impossible but are complex. It would be such a great way to travel.
 
Grays_1890 said:
Done it a few times across Europe, its incredible
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How great would it be to board a train in kings X at 9pm, have some food in the dining car as you whizz through Kent. Then after a couple of night caps, bed town in France, and wake up to breakfast on the train in Spain!

No airport check in. No queuing. No sharing air with 200 people in a tin can, squashed in like sardines, and a lot less pollution. Plus you depart and wake up in the middle of the city.
 
SpurMeUp said:
How great would it be to board a train in kings X at 9pm, have some food in the dining car as you whizz through Kent. Then after a couple of night caps, bed town in France, and wake up to breakfast on the train in Spain!

No airport check in. No queuing. No sharing air with 200 people in a tin can, squashed in like sardines, and a lot less pollution. Plus you depart and wake up in the middle of the city.
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Would be tremendous, I would say once you get the UK portion out the way Eurorail is splendid and fairly joined up with it. You can do London to say Rimini on a route of London, Paris, Zurich, Milan, Rimini for £330 over a few days with trains that make sense including sleepers and hop on hop off. I recommend it to anyone that kinds thing
 
SpurMeUp said:
How great would it be to board a train in kings X at 9pm, have some food in the dining car as you whizz through Kent. Then after a couple of night caps, bed town in France, and wake up to breakfast on the train in Spain!

No airport check in. No queuing. No sharing air with 200 people in a tin can, squashed in like sardines, and a lot less pollution. Plus you depart and wake up in the middle of the city.
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Train travel is by far the nicest mode of transport (no I'm not talking about rush hour trains at Clapham Junction).

Trained it overnight down to Bourg St Maurice from Ashford once for a snowboarding trip...drops you right off below Les Arcs and early in the morning as well...so on the slopes that day.

Flights and transfers to loads of mountain resorts are a pain in the arse (not Morzine though:))
 
Gutter Boy said:
Do you know the 5 things that create growth?

1) War
2) Colonisation
3) Slavery
4) Mass immigration
5) Environmental distruction

Which of these would you like to see more of?

Growth isnt a natural state, its a destructive state.
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Actually I've posted on here about the ridiculous obsession with growth. It's trussonomics. Ultimately, Europe industrialised first and we've pretty much wrung everything we can out of ourselves. There really isn't much growth to be had.

However, I'm criticising the government as they made growth one of their top priorities. Yet put policies in place that are anti-growth and here we are.

The policies they've put in place are also inflationary- increasing costs in the private sector while increasing pay in the public sector. And again: here we are...
 
Lost Mango said:
Fairly sure the Bank of England said they strongly supported the Chancellor's plan and the change in growth forecast was mainly driven by external forces such as the impact of the global trade war launched by the Tango Mussolini.
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The Bank of England said that UK productivity per hour has fallen significantly and their analysis has identified two key drivers for this:
- eccess public sector investment:
public sector employment has increased significantly particularly in health care and teaching.
public sector pay has also been increased significantly
but productivity in public sector areas that have seen significant employment increases and pay increases has not risen, therefore productivity is falling significantly per hour and per £ invested.
They also comment that significant public sector investment has acted as a drag on the private sector, likely a veiled dig at the policies that have funded the uplifts in public sector investments (this is a dig at current AND previous governments).
The other significant cause in a productivity fall according to the BoE is significant levels of net migration. The population of working age people is significantly higher, but productivity has not increased in line with population increases driven by net migration, leading to a fall in productivity per head. The conclusion is that a majority of people coming here via net migration in recent years are not contributing to economic output.
 
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