Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

[Grays_1890]

Having watched a loved one suffer through months of a terminal illness, struggling to breathe and in constant pain, I’m afraid I’m not happy to accept that definition of the bill you reference.

Yep I am a massive advocate for it, for that reason.

Is happening in places as is with people being given full grace of the morphine button in hospice, lets just make it so people have the choice before that and avoid the pain and suffering

 

[Grays_1890]

That tweet is a slight misrepresentation. It is not decriminalising all abortions, only those induced by the woman herself. There have been instances where women have unknowingly exceeded the 24 week limit when taking pills that induce abortion and have faced criminal charges.
That is what is being changed, and to me that's a good thing.
It does not sanction abortions up to full term when carried out by a clinic/hospital/medical practitioner.
In reality it is unlikely to have a huge impact in terms of number of abortions.

Cheers for posting that, Devil in detail as always

 

[djp82]

Anything much over the 24 weeks and you are going to effectively have a still birth so the woman will likely end up in hospital. It's not really a solution for hiding an affair. I don't know if anything like that has actually happened but if it has I'd confidently wager it's an extreme exception.

It has happened. Hence I wonder how that would be seen. In that case the female was given a custodial sentence. Under new legislation way I read it that would not be the case.

 

[Glenda's Legs]

It has happened. Hence I wonder how that would be seen. In that case the female was given a custodial sentence. Under new legislation way I read it that would not be the case.

That’s my understanding as well.
Obviously that’s not the type of scenario this change is intended for but I’d still say that’s a very rare occurrence and as is sometimes the case the undeserving will benefit from legislation that protects those who do need it.

 

[Jurgen the German]

I don’t normally post in here but I’m shocked that they have voted in a bill to allow abortion up to full term.
I’m not against abortion and 24 weeks is one of the later limits in the world prior to today. Allowing up to full term crosses some moral boundary’s in my view. You gov polled at 1% of people polled agreed with it.

On top of that the assisted suicide bill looks like a brick show from the stuff I’m seeing and reading.

Tories were bad but this Labour mob are a brick show of the highest order. Anti human.

There’s not one party i would give a vote to. The politicians in this country are a joke. Full of clueless student activists , anti human loonies , elite snobs. Very few decent ones.

I’m pro abortion but agree there should be a cut off point.

I’m also for assisted dying having a mum who suffers from dementia. Me and my sister just agreed to remove the DNR from her care. I wasn’t ready to let go until recently but I don’t want them to resuscitate her and bring her back if she’s not going to be the same person she was before.

 

[djp82]

I’m pro abortion but agree there should be a cut off point.

I’m also for assisted dying having a mum who suffers from dementia. Me and my sister just agreed to remove the DNR from her care. I wasn’t ready to let go until recently but I don’t want them to resuscitate her and bring her back if she’s not going to be the same person she was before.

I’m really sorry to hear that.

It’s a complex issue that in principal I agree with but as I said I do worry about the way in which it’s implemented. There has to be built in fail safes. Also it’s about who will police those fail safes. There’s other secondary issues surrounding it. In my view. Coercion is a big one.

People will see it in various ways based on their own experiences with death of loved ones and their own experiences of terminal illness.