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Serious question
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vkn17
Peter Taylor
For the 5th time, I meant if he stayed away from all bs...nevermind.
AberYid
Steven Caulker
But why would he stay away from it? When has that ever been plausible?
If Messi was less good would Barcelona sell him? Yes, but he's not. So they won't.
If Ronaldo was affordable would we buy him? Sure. But he's not, so we won't.
If Suarez was a decent human being would anyone other than Liverpool employ him? No. He's not, so no-one will.
Consider all your points considered, and answered.
If Messi was less good would Barcelona sell him? Yes, but he's not. So they won't.
If Ronaldo was affordable would we buy him? Sure. But he's not, so we won't.
If Suarez was a decent human being would anyone other than Liverpool employ him? No. He's not, so no-one will.
Consider all your points considered, and answered.
parklane1
Tony Galvin
Your point was that Suarez did not use a word that was racist, it is here and having lived in Holland myself i can tell you it is there as well. Seeing as Suarez has been living and playing in these countries for 7 years he would know that, you are busted pal as been mentioned in the thread as either a WUM or a bleeding heart scouser.
vkn17
Peter Taylor
Busted, you got me! I've lived in Spain, Portugal and Croatia and I can tell you that it's not. Are you busted now as well?
Football players are known to be very intelligent people in general so one would expect them to know exactly what words are and are not racist in different countries.
By the way, I'm not a WUM or a scouser, I asked a hypothetical question and gave my opinion in a forum and got BUSTED for it. If you think that I'm a WUM or a scouser simply because I don't see him as being a racist, then that's your problem.
iggy1969
Kazuyuki Toda
Haha, I think it's time to drop it, we're not getting anywhere
What you're saying is that the attitude to race in Uruguay and these countries in Europe is similar to how it was here in the 70s, right?
"He don't mind me callin him sambo, it's a term of affection.."
I don't doubt that this is true but it's still racist.
vkn17
Peter Taylor
It was a hypothetical question. I've seen bigger ones asked here.
I'm pretty sure that when he does leave Liverpool it will be for one of the top teams in Europe.
braineclipse
Terry Dyson
No thanks.
Excellent player, but for the kind of transfer fee and wages he would command we could get other excellent players instead.
Not worth the risk of all the hassle that would follow if/when he gets another mental crash.
Excellent player, but for the kind of transfer fee and wages he would command we could get other excellent players instead.
Not worth the risk of all the hassle that would follow if/when he gets another mental crash.
vkn17
Peter Taylor
Sorry mate I can't comment on that one as I have no idea what UK looked like in the 70's.
Baleforce
Les Bennett
a rubbish dump
Sorry Mr Wriggly, I'll have to obstain on that one. Don't like the sound of either, to be honest.:-k
vkn17
Peter Taylor
Well summarised!
I've never heard of the word sambo. Google says that it's an offensive word. Negrito is seen as an affectionate word in some countries and frequently used in multicultural environments.
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iggy1969
Kazuyuki Toda
What I'm trying to say is that just because it's seen as affectionate to call someone darkie in a few backward countries doesn't mean it isn't racist.
chicken_badge
Gudni Bergsson
Oh dear. Well at least if we are moving our thinking back 50+ years, at least we have a team capable of winning the double.
Hootnow
Jermaine Jenas
I think its pretty obvious what Suarez was saying and you don't call someone by an affectionate nickname time 7 times, especially when you're currently involved in a petty 90 minute spat/ argument etc. Moreover, I find it hard to believe that in his time at Liverpool, Suarez didn't once refer to Johnson or any of the other black players in Liverpool's squad as Negro in a 'playful way', where he would have, without doubt, had it explained to him that this isn't done in the UK.
I don't think Suarez is a racist. But I do think he used a word that he thought would rile Evra up.
Anyway, in terms of ability, of course you'd take him, he's the 2nd or perhaps 3rd best striker in the league. He has an insatiable desire to win.
However, this is also a bit of a negative in him. He will do literally anything to win; dirty challenges, diving, kicking, biting, appealing even when it is him that has committed the foul. I think your hypothetical is interesting but it is also a dream because you cannot get Suarez the player without the utter taco he becomes on the pitch. I do not think I could defend (or would want to defend) Suarez if he played for Spurs.
africanspurs
Justin Edinburgh
hmm, very dangerous waters here
africanspurs
Justin Edinburgh
should have read the rest of the thread LOL
