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The case for the defence

SteveAWOL said:
Guess everyone knows by now that none of our midfielders have any defensive awareness, which might help explain why all 3 of them were lined up in no man’s land just as Palmer was about to whip in his cross for their goal.

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what a mess

and what is Son doing, miles from his man

why is Solanke so far back, what kind of an out ball is he there if its turned over
 
SteveAWOL said:
Guess everyone knows by now that none of our midfielders have any defensive awareness, which might help explain why all 3 of them were lined up in no man’s land just as Palmer was about to whip in his cross for their goal.

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Not for the first time this season, one must ask who is Romero marking? If he was marking Jackson, maybe VDV could mark the goalscorer rather than leave Udogie with two to mark.
 
Udogie knows he want to get around on the pivot but instructions are to hold the line at all costs. He is not allowed to.

There were so many great moments where we played Chelsea offside tonight. I can just tell from that picture that this was one of the few where it didn't work. It is a high risk system and needs tweaking. We rely way too much on the offside line in my opinion.
 
Bedfordspurs said:
That’s true
But why does VDV go forward to the man Romero should be marking
That’s a decision the players have made
Just like the chance in the first 40 seconds…. The decision making is horrendous
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Perhaps our captain should shout some instructions to his defenders, what with Son having the perfect view of what’s unfolding from his viewpoint on the edge of our area.
 
Bedfordspurs said:
He doesn’t ever speak
He is comfortably the worst captain Ive seen at the club
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@tommysvr i genuinely don’t know how you can defend son
I appreciate you have an Asian connection but do you watch these games?
their captain scored.
Their captain nailed his numbers and delivered
But that’s not the key bit.
Their captain lead his team
Ours doesn’t do anything. He barely speaks. He isnt showing any on the pitch leadership
How can you defend him?
 
Son is a shocking captain.

Said this before, but you'd get all Son's senior attributes anyway. He doesn't need to wear the armband to give that charisma and mentorship to the group around the place. We need an actual leader on the pitch. That isn't Son.
 
Muttley said:
Son is a shocking captain.

Said this before, but you'd get all Son's senior attributes anyway. He doesn't need to wear the armband to give that charisma and mentorship to the group around the place. We need an actual leader on the pitch. That isn't Son.
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Anyone can lead, they don't have to wear an armband to do it. Being captain is more about being a front figure than the designated leader of the team.
 
Bedfordspurs said:
@tommysvr i genuinely don’t know how you can defend son
I appreciate you have an Asian connection but do you watch these games?
their captain scored.
Their captain nailed his numbers and delivered
But that’s not the key bit.
Their captain lead his team
Ours doesn’t do anything. He barely speaks. He isnt showing any on the pitch leadership
How can you defend him?
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I defend him because I have an Asian connection? Jesus fudging Christ.
 
If 15 grown men can't motivate themselves or recognise how to play successfully then that is a bigger issue than who is captain (or even manager)
 
Muttley said:
Interesting that they don't mention that it was a centre midfielder that scored. Go back a few years and the pundits would have been talking about which one of our centre mids lost their man. They were proper football people then.
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It is poor play from VDV. Bentancur and Bergval also in same place doing same thing instead of one being positioned centrally.
 
Once again we had enough players back but they’re stood in lines of 3 and not doing anything to stop the attack.

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Jordinho said:
I don't think we coach defending. A real waste as our attacking is brick.
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What do you base that statement on ?

I'll go further. That's rubbish. If we didn't coach defending them how would everyone know where to go when there was a corner? Or that when Romero bombs on Bentancur drops in? Or that when the keeper has the ball the centrehalves split wide to give an angle? How did we coach the issues Vicario had with being stood on top of our of the team?
 
SteveAWOL said:
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It's what I said earlier. Romero holds a line, waits for their wide player to cross the ball and as he does steps forwards to play Wood offside. That is the instruction from the training ground and is what we do every time. For Argentina, Romero would drop in and mark Wood and do what it takes to stop the free header.

The problem is VDV, Spence and Bents aren't holding the same line as Romero. They are deeper than him and it is VDV that finally keeps Wood onside.

Scrap the obsession with offside and VDV would just use his pace and strength to mark Wood and head the ball away. That's what their centre halves did all game.
 
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