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The London Taxpayers' Stadium Shambles
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Chris Jones
Re: O/T West Ham Get Olympic Stadium
Agreed. The Spammers have just purchased one of the most famous stadiums in the world for £15m and even if they continue to struggle in the Premier League they are inevitably going to get a surge in attendances just from people who want to visit the Olympic Stadium and some of those tourists will become Spammers. Plus some of those thousands of local kids might end up going there regularly as their parents can't afford to take them to WHL and that might be enough to turn them into Spammers.
Gold and Sullivan must be rubbing their hands in glee as they will soon have an iconic stadium with excellent transport links in an area that has received £billions of investment. Certainly a more attractive investment opportunity than a club based in an area most well known for its riots with inadequate transport links, although I'm not sure quite what Boris' promised £41m regeneration funds are going towards.
Agreed. The Spammers have just purchased one of the most famous stadiums in the world for £15m and even if they continue to struggle in the Premier League they are inevitably going to get a surge in attendances just from people who want to visit the Olympic Stadium and some of those tourists will become Spammers. Plus some of those thousands of local kids might end up going there regularly as their parents can't afford to take them to WHL and that might be enough to turn them into Spammers.
Gold and Sullivan must be rubbing their hands in glee as they will soon have an iconic stadium with excellent transport links in an area that has received £billions of investment. Certainly a more attractive investment opportunity than a club based in an area most well known for its riots with inadequate transport links, although I'm not sure quite what Boris' promised £41m regeneration funds are going towards.
Re: O/T West Ham Get Olympic Stadium
West Ham's stadium will only cost them an initial £15 million capital investment. And then they'll have to pay £2 million rent per annum; they'll only receive a minority portion of the naming rights income; they'll have to pay a minority portion of catering income to the LLDC; they'll have to share the stadium with a number of other tenants; they'll get no income from concerts etc.
Our stadium will cost £250 million. And we will receive every penny that it generates.
Not to mention that it will be a far better football stadium. And it will be where it's supposed to be - in Tottenham.
West Ham's stadium will only cost them an initial £15 million capital investment. And then they'll have to pay £2 million rent per annum; they'll only receive a minority portion of the naming rights income; they'll have to pay a minority portion of catering income to the LLDC; they'll have to share the stadium with a number of other tenants; they'll get no income from concerts etc.
Our stadium will cost £250 million. And we will receive every penny that it generates.
Not to mention that it will be a far better football stadium. And it will be where it's supposed to be - in Tottenham.
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Arthur Rowe
Re: O/T West Ham Get Olympic Stadium
so LLDC (and therefore the MDC) now have a financial interest in a private company, bloody hell
so LLDC (and therefore the MDC) now have a financial interest in a private company, bloody hell
Re: O/T West Ham Get Olympic Stadium
It all comes down to the product. Spurs' new stadium will be better than West Ham's. It will have better corporate facilities - it will be built to the same level of spec as our world leading, new training centre. It will hold more fans than the Olympic stadium and yet it will still be far more intimate and atmospheric. And crucially, unless something changes dramatically, there will be a far better team to watch at the new WHL.
It all comes down to the product. Spurs' new stadium will be better than West Ham's. It will have better corporate facilities - it will be built to the same level of spec as our world leading, new training centre. It will hold more fans than the Olympic stadium and yet it will still be far more intimate and atmospheric. And crucially, unless something changes dramatically, there will be a far better team to watch at the new WHL.
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Re: O/T West Ham Get Olympic Stadium
Why will they necessarily improve on the pitch?
We will improve financially too. And we're already a long way ahead of them.
Why will they necessarily improve on the pitch?
We will improve financially too. And we're already a long way ahead of them.
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Frederic Kanoute
Re: O/T West Ham Get Olympic Stadium
This is it in a nutshell. At first the possibility of moving to the OS seemed exciting, especially given it's only 4 miles away as the crow flies, but then I visited the place and it hit me full on, it's just not Tottenham.
This is it in a nutshell. At first the possibility of moving to the OS seemed exciting, especially given it's only 4 miles away as the crow flies, but then I visited the place and it hit me full on, it's just not Tottenham.
Re: O/T West Ham Get Olympic Stadium
Sorry......you're saying that it would take you 25 minutes to get to Stratford but a further hour and 5 minutes to get to Tottenham??????
Sorry......you're saying that it would take you 25 minutes to get to Stratford but a further hour and 5 minutes to get to Tottenham??????
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Frederic Kanoute
Re: O/T West Ham Get Olympic Stadium
As already pointed out, West Ham would have to pay LLDC a proportion of whatever they earn from a sale within the next ten years.
The new stadium will certainly help them to grow. But it doesn't make them as attractive as many seem to think. They don't own the stadium. They will never own it. They will never be able to exploit the potential stadium income streams fully.
As already pointed out, West Ham would have to pay LLDC a proportion of whatever they earn from a sale within the next ten years.
The new stadium will certainly help them to grow. But it doesn't make them as attractive as many seem to think. They don't own the stadium. They will never own it. They will never be able to exploit the potential stadium income streams fully.
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Re: O/T West Ham Get Olympic Stadium
Matthew Collecott mentioned it a couple of times. Said that it would probably cost less than the Emirates (£230 million).
Matthew Collecott mentioned it a couple of times. Said that it would probably cost less than the Emirates (£230 million).
Re: O/T West Ham Get Olympic Stadium
FFP excludes infrastructure costs (stadiums, training grounds etc).
FFP excludes infrastructure costs (stadiums, training grounds etc).
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Serge Aurier
Re: O/T West Ham Get Olympic Stadium
Not a bad thing, have you walked through tottenham?!
Not a bad thing, have you walked through tottenham?!
Re: O/T West Ham Get Olympic Stadium
Sorry to be pedantic, but they aren't purchasing the stadium. They will be tenants.
Sorry to be pedantic, but they aren't purchasing the stadium. They will be tenants.
Re: O/T West Ham Get Olympic Stadium
There is a lot of work going on behind the scenes to transform north Tottenham into a far more attractive area.
Besides, on match days, the area around WHL is perfectly okay.
Not a bad thing, have you walked through tottenham?!
There is a lot of work going on behind the scenes to transform north Tottenham into a far more attractive area.
Besides, on match days, the area around WHL is perfectly okay.
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Frederic Kanoute
Re: O/T West Ham Get Olympic Stadium
Ha! I've lived there mate. It may be a brickhole but it's OUR brickhole.Not a bad thing, have you walked through tottenham?!
Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
Re: O/T West Ham Get Olympic Stadium
well put jimmyb, i never understood why people always harped on about the 400m figure for the stadium build, that is the total money involved in the project but it is not the cost of the build, we buy the land and then sell some off to a supermarket, so if we buy that strip of land for 10m and then sell it for 25m the figures would say 35m but infact we earnt 15m on it.
I am not saying this is the exact figures involved with us, i have some experince in construction having been a foreman on sites, a much smaller scale but still the costs for the stadium build can be no where near the 400m figure people have been saying for years, just does not make sense to me.
Am still shocked and disgusted people would even consider moving to stratford we are tottenham for fudges sake.
West Ham or gold and sullivan have done amazing on this, they will sell upton park, then use that money to imrpove the first team, then sell to Qatar or someone. I do not fear west ham. Once we have our stadium we will be able to fight man u, arse and chelsea on their termss, west ham will just be another one, so fudging what. We focus on ourselves we will be alright.
I went on a tour of the the Olympic park before the olympics and was less then impressed. Would have been sad if chelsea had got battersea power station as that is so iconic. But chelsea are fudged because they did not get that or Earls court, i find that quite funny.
well put jimmyb, i never understood why people always harped on about the 400m figure for the stadium build, that is the total money involved in the project but it is not the cost of the build, we buy the land and then sell some off to a supermarket, so if we buy that strip of land for 10m and then sell it for 25m the figures would say 35m but infact we earnt 15m on it.
I am not saying this is the exact figures involved with us, i have some experince in construction having been a foreman on sites, a much smaller scale but still the costs for the stadium build can be no where near the 400m figure people have been saying for years, just does not make sense to me.
Am still shocked and disgusted people would even consider moving to stratford we are tottenham for fudges sake.
West Ham or gold and sullivan have done amazing on this, they will sell upton park, then use that money to imrpove the first team, then sell to Qatar or someone. I do not fear west ham. Once we have our stadium we will be able to fight man u, arse and chelsea on their termss, west ham will just be another one, so fudging what. We focus on ourselves we will be alright.
I went on a tour of the the Olympic park before the olympics and was less then impressed. Would have been sad if chelsea had got battersea power station as that is so iconic. But chelsea are fudged because they did not get that or Earls court, i find that quite funny.
Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
Re: O/T West Ham Get Olympic Stadium
With all the canals and open space a bit further out i think it could be very nice, just need to get the tube extended, maybe crossrail 2 will help.
With all the canals and open space a bit further out i think it could be very nice, just need to get the tube extended, maybe crossrail 2 will help.
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Frederic Kanoute
Re: O/T West Ham Get Olympic Stadium
There's a lot of hype from the porn traders about how the fans will be closer to the pitch than the Emirates but I wonder if that also applies to the area behind the goals? Either the rake will need to be ridiculously shallow OR it will require a sizable amount of removable seating for that to work.
There's a lot of hype from the porn traders about how the fans will be closer to the pitch than the Emirates but I wonder if that also applies to the area behind the goals? Either the rake will need to be ridiculously shallow OR it will require a sizable amount of removable seating for that to work.
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Andy Thompson
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Ha ha that is hilarious - the thugs on the top tier won't be able to throw their seats far enough to hit the thugs in the lower tier - who in turn won't be able to hit Lampard and co. with their coins.
Disastrously far from the action - laughable.
You'd be about as close if you sat in the Aquatics centre.
The upper tier will stay where it is though. Just like this stadium in aus.
Ha ha that is hilarious - the thugs on the top tier won't be able to throw their seats far enough to hit the thugs in the lower tier - who in turn won't be able to hit Lampard and co. with their coins.
Disastrously far from the action - laughable.
You'd be about as close if you sat in the Aquatics centre.