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markysimmo said:
After watching that fight I can't see AJ wanting anything to do with Fury
He would get destroyed and totally shown up for what he is
He isn't as big a puncher as Wilder so even if AJ hit Fury I can't see it troubling Fury

Fury is a perfect fighter for his weight it works for him
Wilder bulked up and for me looked gassed after the 1st round
AJ has tried experimenting with his weight before and being heavy didn't suit him
As you say Usyk as good as he is would get swamped by Tyson and his massive size

Reading that Fury might have to fight Whyte next as Mandatory WBC
He could do that around the same time as the Usyk/AJ rematch then the unification fight could be next September
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Will be a nice bit of needle for that one too, I like it.

Don't particularly like Whyte but he's been waiting for his title match for a long time now, should be half decent.

AJ (or Hearn, probably more accurate) want the Fury fight for one reason and one reason only, if it's for the Undisputed title it's potentially the biggest HW fight ever. Imagine how much the Saudi's will offer for that...
 
Joshua Vs Fury still has value now, not the 100m each value but still will be their biggest ever pay day.

If Joshua loses the rematch (quite likely) or Fury loses to Whyte (less likely, but don’t underestimate whyte especially if he gets through a very tough fighter in his next fight)

then the demand for the Joshua V Fury fight will all but disappear.

belts are great and everything, but fury and Joshua will likely make close to 40- 50m each if they fought each other next, they probably make half of that at most if they fought Whyte and Uszec (spelling)

So barring that in mind, what’s the likelihood of Joshua deactivating his rematch clause and Fury dumping his belt.
 
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I don’t like Wilder I never have, thought he was massively overrated and would come unstuck against good opposition which he was protected from for almost all his career.

I think he was a dingdong for the excuses for the last fight and classless after this one.

… but he fought much harder than I thought he would in this one, and is actually much tougher than I gave him credit for.
 
DTA said:
So barring that in mind, what’s the likelihood of Joshua deactivating his rematch clause and Fury dumping his belt.
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Zero chance I feel, more so from Fury as he will want to prove he is the absolute best by holding all the belts
 
markysimmo said:
Zero chance I feel, more so from Fury as he will want to prove he is the absolute best by holding all the belts
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It’s a lot of money to turn down though bruv. Legacy is great, but so is £25,000,000+ extra

And arguably an easy fight for fury than Usyk or Whyte would be.
 
DTA said:
It’s a lot of money to turn down though bruv. Legacy is great, but so is £25,000,000+ extra

And arguably an easy fight for fury than Usyk or Whyte would be.
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Everybody loves the cash I agree but how many boxers have had the chance to be undisputed heavyweight champion of the worrrrrrrrrrrllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
 
markysimmo said:
Everybody loves the cash I agree but how many boxers have had the chance to be undisputed heavyweight champion of the worrrrrrrrrrrllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
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very true. He could have both though. The winner of any Joshua Fury fight would get a crack at Whyte or Usyk next. The money would be better for all concerned that way round as well.
 
Diamond Lights said:
it's that gypsy blood. Can't knock it out.

Great fight, everyone thought it was over in the 4th, Wilder on his arse, then Fury down twice in the 5th was just mad. Some of the best few rounds in boxing that.

Fury though, is almost unbeatable based on current heavyweigh quality. Apart from the gypsy blood in him, he's fudging massive. He's go-to move is to drop on his opponents like dead weight. Imagine keeping on your own feet then lifting someone who's 19 stone too. Wilder is huge at 6"7 and Fury even smashes that.

He can beat Usyk as the sheer size makes it an almost mismatch. AJ wont beat him either.
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Agreed
And fury just doesn’t stay down although the count was slow IMO
 
What happens if Whyte lose to Wallin? There's no way Fury would be motivated to fight him again is there?
 
DTA said:
It’s a lot of money to turn down though bruv. Legacy is great, but so is £25,000,000+ extra

And arguably an easy fight for fury than Usyk or Whyte would be.
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Fury has made it quite clear he doesn't care about the money 'adding more zeroes' to his bank account does nothing for him. He's set for life financially already. What he is not set for life for is happiness and he is very aware of that. Challenges that keep him engaged and his legacy are the important things to him.

I don't think he was particularly up for this fight. Wilder was already in the past from his POV. Legally he had to do it, the WBC belt means a lot to him.
 
ricky2tricky4city said:
Fury has made it quite clear he doesn't care about the money 'adding more zeroes' to his bank account does nothing for him. He's set for life financially already. What he is not set for life for is happiness and he is very aware of that. Challenges that keep him engaged and his legacy are the important things to him.

I don't think he was particularly up for this fight. Wilder was already in the past from his POV. Legally he had to do it, the WBC belt means a lot to him.
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I agree he probably thought he was done with Wilder already but he still seemed up for it, Especially after Wilder was being such a dingdong in the build up. I just think he wasn't too well prepared due to all the personal stuff with his new baby being in intensive care etc and him having to train in a park next to the hospital etc. Didn't seem in ideal shape but to be honest he still had more than enough to get the job done
 
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