Welcome Ange: To Dare is to Didgeridoo

[Raziel]

Seen it mentioned a few times how Maddison dropped deep in the second half. Glad I'm not the only one seeing that in the first half too. Think it was really important for us.

The clean sheet was a bit of luck though imo.

Luck in City wasn't able to deflect one in off someone's ass? probably
Luck in City had glaring open goal multiple times and didn't take it? not really

Vicario in my opinion made two big saves, the foot save against Haaland in first half and the one with his chest at near post in 2nd. City took quite a few snap/hurried shots but they were "fudge he should have scored chances"

 

[braineclipse]

Oh well too bad, that's what happens when you're a team that finishes in the upper echelon of the league. If you can't cope with it what's the point of qualifying for Europe?

We want to qualify for the CL right? Why bother if we can't with actually playing a midweek game.

I think the point is that it can be difficult and it can take some time adjusting to that. Not that we should just accept that the players can't cope with it.

 

[Bishop]

Luck in City wasn't able to deflect one in off someone's ass? probably
Luck in City had glaring open goal multiple times and didn't take it? not really

Vicario in my opinion made two bid saves, the foot save against Haaland in first half and the one with his chest at near post in 2nd. City took quite a few snap/hurried shots but they were "fudge he should have scored chances"

City had 2.15 xG their chances were of better quality than you're remembering.

 

[Lilbaz]

Oh well too bad, that's what happens when you're a team that finishes in the upper echelon of the league. If you can't cope with it what's the point of qualifying for Europe?

We want to qualify for the CL right? Why bother if we can't with actually playing a midweek game.

Cl you have tue to sat, tue to sun, wed to sun. You have more time to prep for the next game. Also the games are usually played in major cities with airports so easier travel.

I'm not saying it to make excuse for the manager. Have been saying it for years.

 

[braineclipse]

Luck in City wasn't able to deflect one in off someone's ass? probably
Luck in City had glaring open goal multiple times and didn't take it? not really

Vicario in my opinion made two bid saves, the foot save against Haaland in first half and the one with his chest at near post in 2nd. City took quite a few snap/hurried shots but they were "fudge he should have scored chances"

They had 23 shots in total. An xG of 2.2

I know xG isn't that telling over a single game and shot numbers can look skewed by teams taking low quality shots from range and such. But still... They really "should" have scored at least once.

 

[Raziel]

City had 2.15 xG their chances were of better quality than you're remembering.

5 shots on goal (we had 7 for perspective), they had 24 total, hence the xG, 0.9xG per shot, ours was 0.28 per shot
Their best opportunities were from outside box and wide/angle, look how much more central ours were

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Oh well too bad, that's what happens when you're a team that finishes in the upper echelon of the league. If you can't cope with it what's the point of qualifying for Europe?

We want to qualify for the CL right? Why bother if we can't with actually playing a midweek game.

CL is easier travel and rest wise

 

[Bedfordspurs]

They had 23 shots in total. An xG of 2.2

I know xG isn't that telling over a single game and shot numbers can look skewed by teams taking low quality shots from range and such. But still... They really "should" have scored at least once.

Should they?
That is less that 0.1 per shot
That’s weak IMO and shows that we limited them to very little quality chances knowing they are the team that gives up the highest quality chances

 

[Bedfordspurs]

5 shots on goal (we had 7 for perspective), they had 24 total, hence the xG, 0.9xG per shot, ours was 0.28 per shot
Their best opportunities were from outside box and wide/angle, look how much more central ours were

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city did what our fans complained about many times
brick shots with low chance of scoring

 

[Bishop]

5 shots on goal (we had 7 for perspective), they had 24 total, hence the xG, 0.9xG per shot, ours was 0.28 per shot
Their best opportunities were from outside box and wide/angle, look how much more central ours were

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The chance Haaland had in I think the 5th minute on his left foot when he was left in acres of space that he scuffed wide should have in the minimum been on target and a goal realistically. That was their best chance of the game and a strike of his quality absolutely should be scoring that one.

 

[Bishop]

city did what our fans complained about many times
brick shots with low chance of scoring

We complain about low quality shots? I think we complain about not shooting period.

 

[billyiddo]

The chance Haaland had in I think the 5th minute on his left foot when he was left in acres of space that he scuffed wide should have in the minimum been on target and a goal realistically. That was their best chance of the game and a strike of his quality absolutely should be scoring that one.

I think their best chance was the one around the 80th minute that Vicario made a good save from Haaland on

 

[Bedfordspurs]

We complain about low quality shots? I think we complain about not shooting period.

Nah we’re high in shots but many fans complained we’re shooting crap shots

 

[Bedfordspurs]

The chance Haaland had in I think the 5th minute on his left foot when he was left in acres of space that he scuffed wide should have in the minimum been on target and a goal realistically. That was their best chance of the game and a strike of his quality absolutely should be scoring that one.

Haaland gets so many chances but his conversion isn’t very consistent
City’s issues is he is 55% of their goals currently

 

[Raziel]

Haaland gets so many chances but his conversion isn’t very consistent
City’s issues is he is 55% of their goals currently

He's elite/brilliant but he isn't Kane (or even Son on a conversion rate)

Very interestingly saw someone go after Pep for recent transfers, both in and out, Grealish, Doku, Gundogan (coming back), Savinho with Mahrez, Palmer, Concelo going out ..

Never understood why City didn't go all out for Kane & Son (he's what Pep has been looking for with Sterling/Grealish/Doku) 3 or 4 years ago.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

He's elite/brilliant but he isn't Kane (or even Son on a conversion rate)

Very interestingly saw someone go after Pep for recent transfers, both in and out, Grealish, Doku, Gundogan (coming back), Savinho with Mahrez, Palmer, Concelo going out ..

Never understood why City didn't go all out for Kane & Son (he's what Pep has been looking for with Sterling/Grealish/Doku) 3 or 4 years ago.

That is what I said about 18 months ago
They sold goals and brought creativity
Issue is the creativity is samey and not very good at passing

 

[Baleforce]

Giving up 2+ xG isn’t sustainable.

That number needs to regularly be near zero.

Great result, but our main issue was still evident.

 

[Bishop]

He's elite/brilliant but he isn't Kane (or even Son on a conversion rate)

Very interestingly saw someone go after Pep for recent transfers, both in and out, Grealish, Doku, Gundogan (coming back), Savinho with Mahrez, Palmer, Concelo going out ..

Never understood why City didn't go all out for Kane & Son (he's what Pep has been looking for with Sterling/Grealish/Doku) 3 or 4 years ago.

Son I understand, his fine touch and technique isn't at the level Pep would want. He wouldn't be as effective in a classical Pep system. Kane though, yeah he was a perfect fit. I guess after they didn't get him that first time they saw the opportunity of Haaland on the horizon and went for him. Truthfully given what they won in that time it's hard to argue they went down the wrong path. I think there problems are more so not having a real viable alternative to Rodri and not replacing what Mahrez, Alvarez and even a degraded Sterling gave them.

 

[Raziel]

Giving up 2+ xG isn’t sustainable.

That number needs to regularly be near zero.

Great result, but our main issue was still evident.

It's City, no one concedes consistently less than 2xG against them, their average is 2.3xG at home & 2.17 overall, we kept them below both

Our overall conceded xG is 1.18

 

[Bullet]

After our Gala game the team got home lunchtime next day
I don’t know the routine after that but at best the prep time for the next game would have been one session I assume
It’s nuts but that’s progress

Matt Wells said something like they flew home after the Gala game and landed at 2am on Friday 8th and went straight to the hotel in the training ground for a few hours sleep, then out onto the training pitches to do a mix of warming down and stretching for those who played, and warming up for those that didn't play.
Then Saturday 9th they talked to the team about what to expect from Ipswich, then Sunday 10th was the match. A very tough turnaround.