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[Muttley]

Agree with that and your last point is probably key too. With what he knows now, would Ange have allowed players like Sessegnon, Skipp, Hjobjerg etc to leave? I think that's also part of what he was talking about.

As I've already said, I'm less so on that one.

I think Ange would have been looking at the things in his control. I may not have all the permutations and combinations right, but I do think there is a theme that we let about 10-12 players head out on loan and put them playing as priority. We may have kept a couple back with the first team. UEFA quotas came into this with someone like Phillips who would have had to be named in the A-list. That would have been the case with Hojbjerg and Gil as well. You may not have seen a numerical advantage unless it was Skipp.

My instinct was that Ange was very tempted to keep Devine with him. That was a very late loan.

 

[Bullet]

I am not sure what you're looking at. When I go back through the teams and subs from August 25th onwards (two games into the season) I see midfield swaps and subs and defensive swaps and subs in several games. Brentford, man U and Brighton were minimal sub games, and I think everyone agrees the second 45 at Brighton was pathetic from players to manager. Go back through the records; the facts don't really support what you're saying in my interpretation.

Thanks to @tommysvr 's database made by match: https://thfcdb.com/people/ange-postecoglou/matches?selectedView=subs

LEI 78 78 78 78 92 92 = far, far too late. We start the season, players are not match fit, we need to bring on fresh legs much sooner. It is hard to make an impact when you're brought on around 80 minutes; just as you get into the match, it finishes. Meanwhile we have several players jogging from 60-78 as they are knackered. 92 92 is an absolute joke.
The optimal time to make your changes is 60 mins. Players become tired at 60, and it gives 30 mins for subs to make an impact. Resting and rotating through the squad like this optimises the usage of the squad.

EVE 66 67 73 73 79 = stop start changes, just as we bring on someone on, we change it again, and change it again, and change it again, confusing.

NEW 46 74 82 82 = one interesting decisive change, then more subs that are far too late. Players are exhausted, still on the pitch, whilst fresh players sit and get splinters. Then come on too late to get into the game. We don't even make a 5th sub.

ARS 68 68 80 = too little, too late. Knackered players on the pitch, subs not used enough, coming on for 10 minutes is poor, and only 3 subs used in total

BRE 63 70 88 88 88 = making 3 subs on 88 is a joke. What chance do they have? They don't even have time to get their kit dirty. This is not using the squad, this is not rotating, this is stupidity.

You get the picture. Obviously all players can sustain 60 30 60 30 60 30 easily, so change it up and keep players fit by doing this or 90 30 90 30 90 30 or whatever mish mash to keep minutes balanced. In other positions you can go 90 60 90 60. But don't go 90 90 90 90 90 90 POP! Use the squad. Don't keep subs til 80 minutes.

 

[thfcsteff]

Thanks to @tommysvr 's database made by match: https://thfcdb.com/people/ange-postecoglou/matches?selectedView=subs

LEI 78 78 78 78 92 92 = far, far too late. We start the season, players are not match fit, we need to bring on fresh legs much sooner. It is hard to make an impact when you're brought on around 80 minutes; just as you get into the match, it finishes. Meanwhile we have several players jogging from 60-78 as they are knackered. 92 92 is an absolute joke.
The optimal time to make your changes is 60 mins. Players become tired at 60, and it gives 30 mins for subs to make an impact. Resting and rotating through the squad like this optimises the usage of the squad.

EVE 66 67 73 73 79 = stop start changes, just as we bring on someone on, we change it again, and change it again, and change it again, confusing.

NEW 46 74 82 82 = one interesting decisive change, then more subs that are far too late. Players are exhausted, still on the pitch, whilst fresh players sit and get splinters. Then come on too late to get into the game. We don't even make a 5th sub.

ARS 68 68 80 = too little, too late. Knackered players on the pitch, subs not used enough, coming on for 10 minutes is poor, and only 3 subs used in total

BRE 63 70 88 88 88 = making 3 subs on 88 is a joke. What chance do they have? They don't even have time to get their kit dirty. This is not using the squad, this is not rotating, this is stupidity.

You get the picture. Obviously all players can sustain 60 30 60 30 60 30 easily, so change it up and keep players fit by doing this or 90 30 90 30 90 30 or whatever mish mash to keep minutes balanced. In other positions you can go 90 60 90 60. But don't go 90 90 90 90 90 90 POP! Use the squad. Don't keep subs til 80 minutes.

This does not directly answer my post. It merely reinforces the opinion you've been stating.

All good. Yes, I'd love to have seen more overall rotation. I'd also loved to have seen a couple more 'ready' players like Eze, I'd like to have not seen Odobert and Richy crocked so early, I'd like our international players to have had a decent rest and some pre-season after a summer of football, I'd like to have seen less grouped injuries down the line, I'd like to have seen better decisions in all areas of the pitch, dugout and boardroom...

...it is not down to one thing, and this whole
mess is not just on Postecoglu by any stretch.