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Ange in or out?

Ange in or out?

  • In

    Votes: 90 58.1%
  • Out

    Votes: 65 41.9%

  • Total voters
    155
It is a complete travesty that we haven't yet brought in a single outfield player in this transfer window. If there was ever a time to throw money at a problem, this is it.
The no signing and not sacking Ange makes me think Levy is to arrogant to think we are in a relegation fight
 
Not sure he actually did work with either player at Soton, but it doesn't detract from your overall point, one i disagree with partly but is well argued

Around that time Saints had VVD, Toby, Big Vic and Mane. Makes you wonder which ones he worked with.

For some reason, I thought he worked with Mane. Maybe the only one.

We should have short circuited that entire situation and bought VVD and Vic in from the SPL. It's not as if we weren't looking at them.
 
Around that time Saints had VVD, Toby, Big Vic and Mane. Makes you wonder which ones he worked with.

For some reason, I thought he worked with Mane. Maybe the only one.

We should have short circuited that entire situation and bought VVD and Vic in from the SPL. It's not as if we weren't looking at them.

Yeah all those players were bought after Poch left.
We indeed chould have shortcircuited, but it's swings and roundabouts though: they might not have flourished in our more demanding surroundings, but who knows.

Not buying Mane from Soton to play alongside the likes of Son, Kane and Eriksen was for me one the real sliding doors moments as he was proven by that time. Can you imagine the extra goal threat and pace on the break? Oh man...
 
I think Ange is very weirdly getting the benefit of the sins of the past, firing too early, firing while in cups, the pendulum has way overcorrected here.

That is likely a big factor...i also think another one is the level replacement available: if the replacement was ready now and was, say someone of Klopp's level who could start straight away, do you think there'd be any kind of hesitation?
 
It is a complete travesty that we haven't yet brought in a single outfield player in this transfer window. If there was ever a time to throw money at a problem, this is it.
Which other EPL signing so far do you think would have improved us?

The Egyptian guy that went to City, yes. But that's about it.

There's very little out there available this window
 
That is likely a big factor...i also think another one is the level replacement available: if the replacement was ready now and was, say someone of Klopp's level who could start straight away, do you think there'd be any kind of hesitation?

Again, the world of managers is big, if Munn's answer is we have no option that is an improvement on our current reality, he should fudging go as well.

I'm actually confused, lots of people dismiss any Spurs decisions as "donkeys running the show", I work for a much larger organization than Spurs and can justify/see the logic behind almost all our decisions (good and bad), I have no fudging idea what we are doing with Ange, there is zero scenario where the risk/reward/business view gives you an answer of stick with him (regardless of replacements).
 
Again, the world of managers is big, if Munn's answer is we have no option that is an improvement on our current reality, he should fudging go as well.

I'm actually confused, lots of people dismiss any Spurs decisions as "donkeys running the show", I work for a much larger organization than Spurs and can justify/see the logic behind almost all our decisions (good and bad), I have no fudging idea what we are doing with Ange, there is zero scenario where the risk/reward/business view gives you an answer of stick with him (regardless of replacements).

These are the same people who brought in Jose and then acted like we still had Poch, then brought in Conte and then didn't get him a RWB that HE signed off on knowing how relaiant his system is on such a player and knowing Emerson and Doherty were 'make do' options in comparison to what Conte typically needed (regardless of how much of a qunt we think Conte was about Spence, was his reaction really a shock given his history?).

So with that history, well...

EDIT: This is also the same organization that cancelled Doherty's contract randomly because they hadn't realised we had reached our limit of loans..haha..absolute classic
 
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These are the same people who brought in Jose and then acted like we still had Poch, then brought in Conte and then didn't get him a RWB that HE signed off on knowing how relaiant his system is on such a player and knowing Emerson and Doherty were 'make do' options in comparison to what Conte typically needed (regardless of how much of a qunt we think Conte was about Spence, was his reaction really a shock given his history?).

So with that history, well...

EDIT: This is also the same organization that cancelled Doherty's contract randomly because they hadn't realised we had reached our limit of loans..haha..absolute classic

All organizations make mistakes .. think PSG ran into same loan brick this window, look at Barca, they always have a "hold my beer" viewpoint.

My point is I usually can contextualize some of those decisions, e.g. Jose was hired with the expectation of Stadium revenue, Covid happened.

What the fudge we are waiting for with Ange? no clue, outside of not wanting the PR of another 18 month fire or manager before potential (I don't agree) cup final?
 
All organizations make mistakes .. think PSG ran into same loan brick this window, look at Barca, they always have a "hold my beer" viewpoint.

My point is I usually can contextualize some of those decisions, e.g. Jose was hired with the expectation of Stadium revenue, Covid happened.

What the fudge we are waiting for with Ange? no clue, outside of not wanting the PR of another 18 month fire or manager before potential (I don't agree) cup final?
It's baffling isn't it.
 
I think at this point we have to accept that Ange is going to see out the season. He could have been justifiably sacked at any point in the last 6 weeks but here he remains.

It is bonkers and we are playing with fire but that's the way it seems to me.
 
I think at this point we have to accept that Ange is going to see out the season. He could have been justifiably sacked at any point in the last 6 weeks but here he remains.

It is bonkers and we are playing with fire but that's the way it seems to me.

Might be the idea, but you have to win some games, some time

We could easily lose the next 4, or even win the Europa and lose the other 3, wtf then?
 
Might be the idea, but you have to win some games, some time

We could easily lose the next 4, or even win the Europa and lose the other 3, wtf then?
I agree and he should be long gone, but as you said. What are they waiting for?

Results couldn't be any worse and we have some horrible fixtures on the horizon. I was stunned he survived Everton and then more so this weekend.

It's a mystery.
 
A lot to unpack here but I seriously doubt that Levy identified Ndombele. He put up the transfer fee and very good wages. That's all you can ask of the chairman. If the player was a flop, that's on other people. Levy did his job.
Indeed, it is on the people that Levy put in place to do the recruitment... I say 'people'... But it actually pretty much just consisted of his mate Hitchen who happened to be incredibly cheap.
 
Poch wanted NDombele. Poch did the phone call thing with NDombele to persuade him to join.
Levy backed his manager in this instance. (And before anyone chimes in I know he then sacked Poch anyway).
Do you know that the club didn't even have a data department at this point? Apparently Paratici actually laughed at our set up when he initially joined Spurs. I think just about every club in the championship had a more grown up structure than we did.
 
Guys there are levy threads and enic threads where you can argue about levy. Try and keep this one about ange.

Basically is he the best man for the job at hand? Or would someone else do better. That should be the question this thread focuses on.
There are lots of better people out there for the Spurs job. The problem is that our club seem to be incapable of bringing them in.
 
I think the job at Chelsea is just a way of securing your families wealth for the next 3 generations. Hard to turn down when it's only going to be 12/18 months of your life.
The type of money we offer, while not at Chelsea levels, is still several notches above Brighton money. The fact that Potter would join Chelsea's madhouse but not ours actually should be quite telling for us.

You don't end up with a manager who's biggest ever job so far is in the Scottish Premier League if you are shopping in Harrods.
 
If levy did leave, which he won't. The taps would be turned on immediately. We've got cash to burn. 300 million is stadium name rights for one.
It is quite interesting that we haven't sold off the stadium naming rights. I wonder if the owners are not selling naming rights as that makes buying the club more attractive? (i.e. they are still available for a new owner to name after one of their own brands)
 
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