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Ange in or out?

Ange in or out?

  • In

    Votes: 77 45.3%
  • Out

    Votes: 93 54.7%

  • Total voters
    170
Man Utd winning the FA Cup is not a particularly big thing, they have won about 45 major titles in their history with 20+ of them coming in the last 25 years.

Spurs winning the Europa is a massive thing. We've won 17 major trophies in our history with only 1 of them coming in the last 25 years.
But it won't happen, and I would be nothing less than amazed if get through the next round. That said, with the players we have and a half decent manager I am sure we could
 
That said we seemingly do put ourselves in the mix for that sort of player too, it's just that chances are they will get an offer for a more established club (Neto for example) who 9 times out of ten they will choose (and who can blame them?)

And sometimes we dodge bullets to, which is never whats reflected on, its always the "ohhh we missed them" when talking about the ones that went and did things. I don't think I have seen too many on here say "ohhh I was wrong about them"
 
The other thing is even if we won the FA cup or Carabao cup it would not make a difference for recruiting players. If we win the Europa and qualify for the Champions league it would be a different matter. Players these days often quote being able to compete at the top level as the reason for joining another club. For example if we were interested in someone like Eze from Palace I think he would more likely join Liverpool Arsenal or City than us because he would for one get offered better wages than we could offer and be more likely to be competing for the title. Thats just my humble opinion of course, but who was the last top class established Prem player to choose us over any of the other top 6 or 8 sides.
 
The other thing is even if we won the FA cup or Carabao cup it would not make a difference for recruiting players. If we win the Europa and qualify for the Champions league it would be a different matter. Players these days often quote being able to compete at the top level as the reason for joining another club. For example if we were interested in someone like Eze from Palace I think he would more likely join Liverpool Arsenal or City than us because he would for one get offered better wages than we could offer and be more likely to be competing for the title. Thats just my humble opinion of course, but who was the last top class established Prem player to choose us over any of the other top 6 or 8 sides.
Players sign for wages, not european football
 
The other thing is even if we won the FA cup or Carabao cup it would not make a difference for recruiting players. If we win the Europa and qualify for the Champions league it would be a different matter. Players these days often quote being able to compete at the top level as the reason for joining another club. For example if we were interested in someone like Eze from Palace I think he would more likely join Liverpool Arsenal or City than us because he would for one get offered better wages than we could offer and be more likely to be competing for the title. Thats just my humble opinion of course, but who was the last top class established Prem player to choose us over any of the other top 6 or 8 sides.
They quote that because they know how it would look if they said: "I've joined Emirates Marketing Project because they agreed to pay me four times as much as I earn at <previous club>" .

If ourselves and Liverpool want the same player and offer the same wages then, yes of course, they go to Liverpool because they are a club who actually have a recent history of winning things whereas our recent history has anything but. If Spurs did win a trophy a year for the next few years then I actually do think it would work as a good kicker for more players being prepared to join us over potential rivals paying the same amount.
 
I certainly felt there was a subtext along the lines of 'we should've kept Hojberg or Skipp' in there among the many points being made...

The thought of those 2 never occurred to me.

Interestingly, sending Devine out so late in the window did. I wonder whether Ange may be thinking he should have kept him with the squad. Perhaps even Phillips could have even stuck around under Ange's control.

Surely Ange would be thinking this way rather than against decisions that had already been agreed by everybody and actioned already.
 
Of course there are isolated incidents, there always will be. I would point out that it happens in reverse as well. There are plenty of places a white person wouldn't dare go after dark, Tottenham being one of them. The fact is you live in just about the most tolerant country in the world, it's time to stop moaning about a tiny minority and see the glass full.

White people wont go to Tottenham after dark?

Do you seriously believe that?
 
FA Cup, League Cup, Europa League. I have no idea how any supporter of Tottenham would turn their nose up at winning any of those trophies.
Because for some people, how you win, what you stand for, the journey you’ve been on, can be more important than actually winning itself.

That’s why I actually wasn’t at all fussed at Mourinho being sacked before the cup final. Winning with him and in his way - I maintain there was more chance winning with Mason given the squad had stopped playing for Mourinho; people may remember things differently - it just would not have sat well with me.

I get I’m probably in the minority here, but winning at any cost, that’s not for me.
 
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brick. How am i supposed to go to midweek games now? And why didnt anyone tell me for the past 25 years?
Lol I was thinking the same. To be fair there are a few estates that I wouldn`t wander around alone if I didn`t have any mates I knew there but thats probably the same for just about anywhere in the country. I find Tottenham quite a friendly place it`s areas like Highbury and the Fulham road in Chelsea that give me the heebie jeebies but then I am biased
 
Lol I was thinking the same. To be fair there are a few estates that I wouldn`t wander around alone if I didn`t have any mates I knew there but thats probably the same for just about anywhere in the country. I find Tottenham quite a friendly place it`s areas like Highbury and the Fulham road in Chelsea that give me the heebie jeebies but then I am biased
I don’t think any area of Tottenham is pleasant to walks around outside of football
But that’s because of the nature of the buildings as much as anything
There is a reason it’s a poorer area of London and that will not change until it’s invested in and an underground is built
 
I have to say
And I’m gonna contradict what I’ve said before …
But I do like Thomas frank as an option
It’s hard to tell how much of his role is governed by the structure at Brentford
He did play very good football in the championship
And he is flexible I think
Also he comes across just as a great bloke which matters to me as a fan
 
I have to say
And I’m gonna contradict what I’ve said before …
But I do like Thomas frank as an option
It’s hard to tell how much of his role is governed by the structure at Brentford
He did play very good football in the championship
And he is flexible I think
Also he comes across just as a great bloke which matters to me as a fan
A bold claim, written right after they lose. He seems average, meh, fine, whatever. There are lots of managers that are fine. I see Brighton keep losing. Apparently they didn't win a home game all year and sold their manager Potter to Cheatski for £22m. Iraola keeps losing too. Fulham's manager, Palace... so many flavours of the month it is hard to keep up.
 
A bold claim, written right after they lose. He seems average, meh, fine, whatever. There are lots of managers that are fine. I see Brighton keep losing. Apparently they didn't win a home game all year and sold their manager Potter to Cheatski for £22m. Iraola keeps losing too. Fulham's manager, Palace... so many flavours of the month it is hard to keep up.

I haven’t seen todays game
But I was bored earlier and did some research
Teams lose
Teams can be lucky and unlucky … apparently tonight they were the latter but I’ve not seen it at all
But something stuck with me from a pod
We need a manager who ISNT a system manager. We need one who takes what he has and finds a way
He has made players better
Has has made their team better
He loses players and finds other ways to play
They will finish mid table and for Brentford that’s still massive
They give everyone a real game. No fudging around. You know when you have played them
 
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