Jose Mourinho - SACKED

[Finney Is Back]

It depends who that man is, if its Poch you can not ( according to the Poch lovers phalanx) but Jose you can, different strokes for different folks.

And vice versa as well it seems? (Though so far Jose has had more backing than Pochettino did).

 

[Finney Is Back]

Don't want to open up this debate again, but how many players did Poch buy and how much did he spend? Let's leave it there shall we.

Average of £3m net per transfer window until the last one.... and then didn’t really get a chance to integrate the 3 new players he got in that last window.

 

[Finney Is Back]

We may have a good forward line but they miss lot of chances, I've lost count of the times we've had openings and blown them when scoring would have had puts us in winning positions.

So do all forward lines

 

[Finney Is Back]

They don't out perform "their" xG, they outperform general xG, which they should, because they are better than 99% of the players contributing to xG.

Then, one would assume, they can’t actually miss lots of chances can they?

 

[thfcsteff]

No need to look back mate, we all know you are a lover of Poch. Nothing wrong with that as i was also one who thought he should have been given to the end of that season to see if he could sort the mess.

Yes, there really IS a need for you to look back over this thread (especially the last month or so). Because your answer literally has nothing to do with this shadow boxing routine you're currently into.

 

[thfcsteff]

And its seems that Kane and sons first and second thought is to look for each other and exclude others who may be in a better position.
Now the record has been broken that will hopefully be put to bed.

Interesting point, but I think it has a lot to do with set-up and how the team is told to function.

 

[K.D.D.D.D.Soc]

So do all forward lines

And all defences make mistakes but they can be criticised unlike forwards.

 

[Mr Gogolak]

Sterling would be sidelined for the crime of being flash while black.

I'm not sure what you're hinting at with that sentence... You're implying our manager's racist?

 

[MKSpur]

And its seems that Kane and sons first and second thought is to look for each other and exclude others who may be in a better position.
Now the record has been broken that will hopefully be put to bed.

Was a concern that Son looked to cushion the ball to Kane rather than shoot on Sunday!

 

[Mr Gogolak]

Identity of THIS club???
I'll start with The Game Is About Glory...it certainly is not "low-blocks".
Giving forwards freedom? Come on. How about a system which also works to support them more than just rely on their brilliance?
The amount of games played is a factor, but he has a large squad which he has divided.

Let's just leave it here and both hope he proves me wrong in these final games...

I'm genuinely curious because I feel like there's something I don't understand here. What's the link between the club's identity and the way the manager wants his team to play? If the game is about glory, then Ardiles should have been made manager for life!

When you appoint someone like Mourinho (or Graham or Allegri), you know football aesthetics won't be their number one priority. Nevertheless, their teams have a distinct identity or we wouldn't be able to say that. I'll give you that we seem to be the exception to that rule but that's because Mourinho's been trying everything he can to turn things around. Having said that, I expected him to change our players' mindset and make them much more ruthless. That hasn't happened and that's why I'd be inclined (personally) to cut the experience short at the end of the season. Regardless, I'm feel like I'm not getting your point about identity.

 

[thfcsteff]

I'm genuinely curious because I feel like there's something I don't understand here. What's the link between the club's identity and the way the manager wants his team to play? If the game is about glory, then Ardiles should have been made manager for life!

When you appoint someone like Mourinho (or Graham or Allegri), you know football aesthetics won't be their number one priority. Nevertheless, their teams have a distinct identity or we wouldn't be able to say that. I'll give you that we seem to be the exception to that rule but that's because Mourinho's been trying everything he can to turn things around. Having said that, I expected him to change our players' mindset and make them much more ruthless. That hasn't happened and that's why I'd be inclined (personally) to cut the experience short at the end of the season. Regardless, I'm feel like I'm not getting your point about identity.

Man in a raincoat should never have managed this club.

The best example I can offer is Liverpool, who never hired a manager like GGG or Mourinho, despite Mourinho flirting with them. Because they have an ethos.

We have an upcoming pod special where we break down the ENIC era managerial appointments. I think you will enjoy it, and it might perhaps go towards seeing the point made. I will be sure to let you know when it is done.

 

[Mr Gogolak]

Man in a raincoat should never have managed this club.

The best example I can offer is Liverpool, who never hired a manager like 3G or Mourinho, despite Mourinho flirting with them. Because they have an ethos.

We have an upcoming pod special where we break down the ENIC era managerial appointments. I think you will enjoy it, and it might perhaps go towards seeing the point made. I will be sure to let you know when it is done.

I'm looking forward to it!

 

[ricky2tricky4city]

I'm looking forward to it!

Don't hold your breath!

 

[Baleforce]

Man in a raincoat should never have managed this club.

The best example I can offer is Liverpool, who never hired a manager like 3G or Mourinho, despite Mourinho flirting with them. Because they have an ethos.

We have an upcoming pod special where we break down the ENIC era managerial appointments. I think you will enjoy it, and it might perhaps go towards seeing the point made. I will be sure to let you know when it is done.

They hired Benitez.

 

[Baleforce]

actually, and Woy, and (the second iteration of) Dalgliesh, and Souness

they have been all over the place managerially

 

[MKSpur]

They hired Benitez.

And Hodgson.
United hired Moyes and Mourinho.
We hired AVB.

tradition doesn’t count for much at football clubs nowadays, unless they can monetise it. I remember the club having a “never red” merchandise campaign, pre AIA becoming our sponsor of course.

 

[Baleforce]

And Hodgson.
United hired Moyes and Mourinho.
We hired AVB.

tradition doesn’t count for much at football clubs nowadays, unless they can monetise it. I remember the club having a “never red” merchandise campaign, pre AIA becoming our sponsor of course.

ha, just edited to add Woy, good point

I completely agree, all that matters is winning in the future

Arsenal of course shifted massively with Wenger

 

[MKSpur]

ha, just edited to add Woy, good point

I completely agree, all that matters is winning in the future

Arsenal of course shifted massively with Wenger

Yep.
I hate how Wengers tenure reinvented Goons as a ‘footballing’ side. It didn’t seem as important when it stopped delivering trophies.

 

[Finney Is Back]

actually, and Woy, and (the second iteration of) Dalgliesh, and Souness

they have been all over the place managerially

I agree. I think Liverpool's owners have been as haphazard as Levy in appointing managers. They eventually lucked out on Klopp and then backed him appropriately to be fair to them.

 

[Finney Is Back]

And Hodgson.
United hired Moyes and Mourinho.
We hired AVB.

tradition doesn’t count for much at football clubs nowadays, unless they can monetise it. I remember the club having a “never red” merchandise campaign, pre AIA becoming our sponsor of course.

worse than that I think the 'never red' range came out when Thomson had their red logo splashed all over our home kit.