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*** Official Film Thread ***

spurspinter1 said:
I think something being described as woke just because it’s got non straight or disabled people is a worrying trend myself.

Maybe I’ve misunderstood but it seems you’re simultaneously declaring how unbothered you are by the ethnicity of a cast whilst also mentioning examples of cases when race seems like it has become an issue for you? By that I mean like when you mentioned a token white actor in Black Panther 2, i’ve not read the comics so I’m not sure of what the controversy is there.

RE your last paragraph, i get you however I wonder if the 50 / 100 years is more to do with cancel culture but it’s linked to a degree. We agree on it starting out as something different though for sure.
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If the story requires there to be a diverse cast then that’s great and I will support that, but I want great stories above else. It appears that most tv shows or films have to have represent the pie chart of the UK/US when it comes to race, gender, sexual orientation etc like it’s the census rather than a film or a tv show. The Oscars have even introduced quotas that a film must meet in order to be eligible for awards such as the crew and the cast have to meet certain criteria of diversity. I think we can all accept there needs to be more roles for women, people of colour etc but the above doesn’t seem like the best way to go about it. For example, how could you make a film about the holocaust if you have to meet a quota for diversity and the majority of the cast would need to be Jewish?

Like i said, I think wokeism or whatever you want to call it started out as a good idea but it has lost its way. Honestly I’d say the world is a more tolerant and accepting place than it was towards minorities and the LGBT community to name a couple of examples than it was 50 years ago or even 20 years ago. That doesn’t mean we still don’t have some way to go (I think the election of Trump and other right wing bigots is a blip) and we should stop striving for progress. I just disagree with a certain type of ideology that tries to get people fired for things they tweeted a decade ago or tries to pull down statues of winston Churchill. Teaching people to be hyper sensitive over speech to me seems like it will do more harm to mental health than good. It’s funny that we accept that technology moves in and evolves over time, no one watches an old film and wonders why they are using a brick phone or watching a tv show that’s not flat screen, we just accept it. But when it comes to morality, some people apply today’s norms to 100 years ago or even further.
 
Jurgen the German said:
If the story requires there to be a diverse cast then that’s great and I will support that, but I want great stories above else. It appears that most tv shows or films have to have represent the pie chart of the UK/US when it comes to race, gender, sexual orientation etc like it’s the census rather than a film or a tv show. The Oscars have even introduced quotas that a film must meet in order to be eligible for awards such as the crew and the cast have to meet certain criteria of diversity. I think we can all accept there needs to be more roles for women, people of colour etc but the above doesn’t seem like the best way to go about it. For example, how could you make a film about the holocaust if you have to meet a quota for diversity and the majority of the cast would need to be Jewish?

Like i said, I think wokeism or whatever you want to call it started out as a good idea but it has lost its way. Honestly I’d say the world is a more tolerant and accepting place than it was towards minorities and the LGBT community to name a couple of examples than it was 50 years ago or even 20 years ago. That doesn’t mean we still don’t have some way to go (I think the election of Trump and other right wing bigots is a blip) and we should stop striving for progress. I just disagree with a certain type of ideology that tries to get people fired for things they tweeted a decade ago or tries to pull down statues of winston Churchill. Teaching people to be hyper sensitive over speech to me seems like it will do more harm to mental health than good. It’s funny that we accept that technology moves in and evolves over time, no one watches an old film and wonders why they are using a brick phone or watching a tv show that’s not flat screen, we just accept it. But when it comes to morality, some people apply today’s norms to 100 years ago or even further.
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If the plot, writing, direction, acting etc are good enough the diversity or lack of diversity in a show wouldn't be noticeable.
I suggest that the reason they are noticeable is that the movie/show/programme aren't very good.
These things are either for entertainment or enlightenment, if half way through it you start wondering if it is filling the quota then it's not entertaining you or providing your mind with stimulation (unless of course said media is about diversity in said media).
 
Scream is good, a bit overhyped but returns to its original roots and quality. The third part is a bit too crazy and over the top, but overall it was worth a watch.
 
Trixster said:
Finally got round to watching Ghostbusters Afterlife, while it isn't an instant classic (thou debatable), it is extremely entertaining and well worth the watch. I have to say, the way they involved and showed appreciation for Harold Ramis was very touching and well done.
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Thought it was excellent, very well done.
 
Spiderman No Way Home was brilliant but weird, as the most impressive bits are the soppy tear jerker moments, and the girl behind me sobbed her way through the movie!
 
I thoroughly enjoyed Licorice Pizza up local Odeon this evening, well worth a trip to the cinema if you’re a fan of Paul Thomas Anderson’s films.

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I caught A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood on Netflix at the weekend.
A really charming film with an uncanny performance from Tom Hanks. It'll mean so much more to Americans as they'll have that greater awareness of who Mr Rogers is and the truth of an unusual amount of the film.
I found the Esquire magazine article featured in the film and that was quite something too.
 
Watched the new Scream the other day. Not particularly original but enjoyable all the same. Guessed who the killer was quite early on so a bit predictable in that sense. Not sure where else they can go with the franchise now. Still remember watching the original and being brick scared at the time as a 12 year old.
 
Jurgen the German said:
Watched the new Scream the other day. Not particularly original but enjoyable all the same. Guessed who the killer was quite early on so a bit predictable in that sense. Not sure where else they can go with the franchise now. Still remember watching the original and being brick scared at the time as a 12 year old.
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I've never been a massive fan of slasher films, I prefer creepier folk horror stuff. I can see merit with the original stuff - Peeping Tom, Eyes Without A Face, Texas Chainsaw, Hills Have Eyes etc., but as soon as it started with all that post-modern gonads and then went into torture porn, I just lost interest.
 
Gutter Boy said:
I've never been a massive fan of slasher films, I prefer creepier folk horror stuff. I can see merit with the original stuff - Peeping Tom, Eyes Without A Face, Texas Chainsaw, Hills Have Eyes etc., but as soon as it started with all that post-modern gonad*s and then went into torture porn, I just lost interest.
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The first Hostel and Saw movies for instance were quite good. It was something new and most importantly they had a good story/mystery to keep you interested, but as soon as something is successful they turn it into a franchise or start pumping out inferior copies. I love horror movies, but I need a good story, not just a bunch of obnoxious teenagers getting cut into pieces for no particular reason.
 
Gutter Boy said:
I've never been a massive fan of slasher films, I prefer creepier folk horror stuff. I can see merit with the original stuff - Peeping Tom, Eyes Without A Face, Texas Chainsaw, Hills Have Eyes etc., but as soon as it started with all that post-modern gonad*s and then went into torture porn, I just lost interest.
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I can’t stand torture porn like Human Centipede and the Hostel sequels, first one wasn’t bad. I agree I do like a more sophisticated horror film like Get Out and Stephen King but I like a good slasher if it’s done right. This Scream film just felt very samey and similar to the previous ones.
 
Jurgen the German said:
I can’t stand torture porn like Human Centipede and the Hostel sequels, first one wasn’t bad. I agree I do like a more sophisticated horror film like Get Out and Stephen King but I like a good slasher if it’s done right. This Scream film just felt very samey and similar to the previous ones.
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Human centipede 3 is one of the funniest films i've ever seen. Was crying.
 
Gutter Boy said:
I've never been a massive fan of slasher films, I prefer creepier folk horror stuff. I can see merit with the original stuff - Peeping Tom, Eyes Without A Face, Texas Chainsaw, Hills Have Eyes etc., but as soon as it started with all that post-modern gonad*s and then went into torture porn, I just lost interest.
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Same here, see that my local Odeon is now showing Guillermo del Toro’s new film so think I’ll be check that out for my next Limitless trip rather than Scream rehash.

 
Went to see Boiling Point this afternoon.

Highly recommended, Stephen Graham excellent as usual.

Apparently shot in one take start to finish. Impressive.
 
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