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If I had to choose between allowing a migrant into the country and SkipRat, I know who i think would be allowed in. SkipRat espouses anti British values. My grandfather spent 5 years fighting against them.
Oh dear!

The arrogance of it. So you would rather have someone that would promote, say, women and girls shouldn't be allowed to vote, or that women should cover themselves from head to toe... Good to know where your morals lie, feel sorry for the women who is with you.

:tearsofjoy: :tearsofjoy: to funny
 
With a 200 seat majority...you forgot that bit.
Got less votes than Corbyn, by nearly a million. Kier didn't get into power due having a great plan, it was by default as the conservative vote collapsed and voted Reform. Yes the seats look great, the reality is though, there is more to it than that. You can try and spin anyway you want, but that be the facts.

The complete lack of understanding and insight into it all, is hilarious.
 
Stop wasting your time with ignorant old me, spend it saving everyone from hoardes of immigrant criminals and rapists you gallant braveheart.
Yup, those Albanian drug gangs members floating over causing havok as they take over the illegal drugs market, refugees were they? Those poor war torn victims from Albania.

Amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing how refugees in every other part of the world are mainly women and children. Yet the vast majority of of arrivals to the UK, especially on boats, are working age men, young and fit, travelling through war torn France, Germany, Italy.

More likely to commit crime, and be involved in sexual assault. I mean what do I know, I only read official reports on whats happening, not listening to garbage in the newspaper, from anyside of the political debate, as it is all biased garbage.

Of course, I had no idea that it isn't all of them, silly me... What was I thinking that allowing 200,000+ a year net migrantion is completely unsustanable placing enourmous pressures on every single aspect of society and infrastructure, that even well run countries like Germany have completely failed to achieve, leading to the AfD and the rise of the right across the whole of Europe, including the chilled Dutch, Swedish, Danish to name but a few....

What do I know do I know yeah?
 
Yup, those Albanian drug gangs members floating over causing havok as they take over the illegal drugs market, refugees were they? Those poor war torn victims from Albania.

Amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing how refugees in every other part of the world are mainly women and children. Yet the vast majority of of arrivals to the UK, especially on boats, are working age men, young and fit, travelling through war torn France, Germany, Italy.

More likely to commit crime, and be involved in sexual assault. I mean what do I know, I only read official reports on whats happening, not listening to garbage in the newspaper, from anyside of the political debate, as it is all biased garbage.

Of course, I had no idea that it isn't all of them, silly me... What was I thinking that allowing 200,000+ a year net migrantion is completely unsustanable placing enourmous pressures on every single aspect of society and infrastructure, that even well run countries like Germany have completely failed to achieve, leading to the AfD and the rise of the right across the whole of Europe, including the chilled Dutch, Swedish, Danish to name but a few....

What do I know do I know yeah?

Who are you talking to? Look, given your established 'superior knowledge' why do you keep responding? Enjoy your enlightenment. Or don't.
 
The cheek of it! Eating when you could be defending the streets from those criminal immigrant hoardes!!! Still, have to keep your strength up I suppose 😂
At least someone would be doing it.

How many 1000's of white children got their back doors smashed in, before you white liberals did anything about the Muslim *struggle cuddle* gangs?
 
A parliamentary term is 5 years so what people think of them at the minute means absolutely f uck all tbh. They have a massive majority; they are doing the unpopular stuff now; and they will hope to be turning things around in 3 or 4 years. Taking opinion polls at this point is like p issing into the wind. Keeps a few nerds in jobs, but otherwise, utterly pointless.
 

Tbh, and I'm probably in a small minority with this, I wouldn't mind if politicians had a few perks like free clothes or specs, upgrades on their footie season tickets and the like if they are did actually do their job properly and life got better for the person in the street.
It's way, way to early to tell with Starmer so I'm not going to judge him yet, that people really think anyone could turn this mess around in such a short space of time says more about the electorate than the politicians.
 
At least someone would be doing it.

How many 1000's of white children got their back doors smashed in, before you white liberals did anything about the Muslim *struggle cuddle*

Keep it up Capt Enlightened. Keep on showing us what you really are...come out come out...
 
Tbh, and I'm probably in a small minority with this, I wouldn't mind if politicians had a few perks like free clothes or specs, upgrades on their footie season tickets and the like if they are did actually do their job properly and life got better for the person in the street.
It's way, way to early to tell with Starmer so I'm not going to judge him yet, that people really think anyone could turn this mess around in such a short space of time says more about the electorate than the politicians.

I love the irony of the media pushing this, anyone who's worked in it knows how much they love a freebie and hate putting their hand in their own pocket.
 
A parliamentary term is 5 years so what people think of them at the minute means absolutely f uck all tbh. They have a massive majority; they are doing the unpopular stuff now; and they will hope to be turning things around in 3 or 4 years. Taking opinion polls at this point is like p issing into the wind. Keeps a few nerds in jobs, but otherwise, utterly pointless.
Indeed.

And we have to recognise a lot of things:
I. The massive change in immediacy of opinion and that being communicated now Vs 13 years ago.
Labours polls at all time low this week could easily become the opposite in a month from their actions, or someone elses.

II. The absolute skip fire they've been dealt.

III. The weakness in our system that there is an element of learning on the job for MPs, so we always get book and bust politics (compare with coalitions that have more parties directly involved in governance. Select committees go someway to addressing that)

IV. This was always going to be a very tough and uncomfortable parliament. People want a Blair type reaction to the skip fire. The country, and the world, is a million miles away from that landscape. The next few years are going to be a hard reality check.

V. You think those polls are bad? Wait until after the budget in a few weeks!

Re: Labour. I voted Labour this time. Don't usually, I'm usually more Lib Dem.
I'm going to judge them properly after 6 months, 1 year, and 3 years. The act of governing isn't about instant results. Yes, get your quick wins if you can, but overall it's a long term exercise.

So far:
-Winter fuel allowance rebalance. 7/10.
Correct decision. Slightly clumsy Comms. Hopefully will be accompanied by an increase to the UC threshold in the budget (this can ONLY be done in a budget for anyone that might moan about it not having been done yet) for pensioners so it supports those in need but stays away from being a blanket payment

-Expenses/gifts. 8/10
A nothing story whipped up by the right wing press. Making it an opportunity to create new rules is a great move and should garner big changes.
Giving back certain bits of gifts was clumsy, but also a reflection of the sensationalism that is UK politics.

-Chaogos Islands. 0/10
Furious about this. To make this move without giving proper choice to Chaogians (sic) is a disgrace and not in line with the values I thought I voted for.

Summary:
We have moved from a circus government to a technocratic government - it is going to take a few years to get used to that.
So far I'd say Labour decision making has been good.
The political strategy and clarity of Comms behind it has been clumsy and clunky.
 
At least someone would be doing it.

How many 1000's of white children got their back doors smashed in, before you white liberals did anything about the Muslim *struggle cuddle* gangs?
On the previous page you focused on the broad ethnicity and/or nationality of rapists (see 47.7% of rapists being north African - I paraphrase).
The focus here is about religion being a present factor.

From that, I am going to extrapolate that you are, in general, anti *struggle cuddle* as an act (please correct me if this isn't the case).

I'm curious as to your hypothesis:
The first seems to suggest that the place of birth is a key factor in being a rapist, and thus you correlate it to immigration.
The second creates a link to the religion of the perpetrators being an aggravating factor.
There is also a focus on white people being the victims of assaults - is this to the exclusion of non whites that are assaulted? Do you consider any correlation to ethnicity, nationality or religious faith to be present within the victims?
What is the ethnic, nationality, religious link you make to the perpetrators?
 
I love the irony of the media pushing this, anyone who's worked in it knows how much they love a freebie and hate putting their hand in their own pocket.

I’m only a lowly IT guy, but I get free brick all the time, we live in a world driven by advertising money being spent on swag.
 
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