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Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

You judged her for these, I am asking you for your thoughts on what I asked.

Kemi is against Net Zero is this another case of crazy Kemi?

Net Zero, is probably good in your books, had lots of chat about it, so just give an honest opinion. Like I said, no right or wrong answer.

I'm not gonna call you some kind of donkey...

I’ve read some of her comments in those issues, hence my earlier assertion.

Yes, I’m for environmental protection. If she agrees with me on that, fair enough, I’d still never vote for her though.
 
In my opinion, you're incapable of debate.
Just re-read your attempt to engage in one and see if you can spot the clues.

Your posts and posting style suggest you live in a world of assumptions and hard-wired agendas. Instead of asking questions, you hurl invectives and simply repeat your (admittedly consistent) one-track opinions. You make assumptions of others. And due to this aggressive and thinly-veiled hostility, you have certainly worn me down to the point where I have no interest in persuing any further dialogue. I have found myself on the edge of hostile language; towards an internet name which for all I know could be a 'bot'. Sad times. So I've now put you on ignore, again a sad thing as in real life I have many friends with many beliefs (except racist and homophobic ones, I don't have racist or homophobic friends).

Perhaps that is a misconception, perhaps you're simply a misunderstood person who just swims in angry waters for refreshment. If so, I'll accept I was wrong, Iive with it, and hope you find a way out of those specific waters in the future...good luck.
Coward.

You don't want to debate, because you know you will lose. If you want a proper debate you and others need look at yourselves rather than it being the first thing you did was insinuate that was I racist, cherry picking, and making things up.

Everything I have said is factually correct, provable, and done so honestly.

You and others are a prime example why this country is in the state it is is. You don't want to listen to the views of other people as your arrogance refuses to let you think. All the left know how to do these days is call people racist, bigots, phobes You only know what the MSM has told you.

How many times did I point out the biggest problem with the NHS is retention, with working conditions and living standard being the two biggest causes. How many of you in this thread debate this point? None of you, you cherry picked point, to claim racist and score virtue signalling points. It is people like you that are the worst debaters of all, and you are too blind and arrogant to see it.


What about my points regarding these issues?

EU and China over fishing in Senegal driving migration? did you or anyone else debate this point? Nope

What about food? Anyone argue this point? Nope.

What about the point regarding asset stripping countries of their skilled workers? Anyone argue this point? Nope

Is sad and pathetic how people like claim that others don't know how to debate, when your first reaction is to call people racist and ignore the actual points that lead to nuanced debate.

Oh and the answer to the question is - We do have the wrong kind of immigration because far too many people are moving around the world due to wars, poverty, the effects of climate change, or as the results of countries like us, the EU, China asset stripping poor developing countries of resources and people, and not because choose too and want to experience new cultures and new things and see the world.

It's all too often that the left these attack the person not the not the argument.

I have pointed Starmer giving away Chagos without even speaking to the natives from island, not even single consideration towards Mauritius and links with Chilna, and what China has been upto in the South China Sea, and the Chinese Silk Road program, and what they have been doing Africa... you even ignored this.

Not a single word from you.

Its laughable.
 
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I’ve read some of her comments in those issues, hence my earlier assertion.

Yes, I’m for environmental protection. If she agrees with me on that, fair enough, I’d still never vote for her though.
Okay, well she is against Net Zero because it's just a buzz word, spouted by politicians to sound green to the gullible masses to by voted

The problem is, most of Net Zero is pushing our Carbon footprint of poorer developing countries, especially within food production. With mass immigration to the UK, this problem of shifting our Carbon footprint is only going to get worse and the burden being placed upon foreign poorer and developing countries, who they themselves are having to address a growing population, and expected to feel the effects of Climate Change first.

Will post a link to a study from Aberdeen and Edinburgh University on this. So you can read for yourself.

EDIT: As promised - https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rsif.2015.1001 - Global cropland and greenhouse gas impacts of UK food supply are increasingly located overseas

Net Zero is a buzzword to hoodwink the gullible masses.

And carbon capture is joke and Labour pronouncing it like it is a great thing, pumping £22 billion (that is where the missing money went) into a project that doesn't even begin to address so many problems. We need invest in new green technologies in spheres of thermal and solar, Wind is absolute garbage and causes so many problems, decimating bird and bat populations. As I posted in the Climate Change thread, the government should be investing in the projects so you don't carbon capture in the first place and Port Talbot can compete on the global market, as the biggest cost to them is the cost of energy.

Now, the next point, what is wrong about her views on Trans people?
 
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It’s a diatribe of aimless nonsense. It says to me: a person that is board and life hasn’t worked out as they intended.

You have list of blame and offer zero. There are no constructive solutions from you. Just a lot of crying. And it’s all someone else’s fault. What are your solutions either to your own situation or the supposed ills you see all around you?
Constructive solutions? You need to debate points first before you get to that stage and it's funny because no one is arguing the points, ists and phobes as per the norm 🤣 😂

Like this one, you call it diatribe, but you are not debating a single point I made, because you know I'm right, and your scared your precious little bubble will burst and all that you know to be true is wrong.

I mean, if I was so wrong, then why are you not debating those points then?
 
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Constructive solutions, that's funny because no one is debating I make 🤣 😂

Like this one, you call it diatribe, but you are not debating a single point, because you know I'm right, and your scared your precious little bubble will burst.

I mean, if I was so wrong, then why stunner debating those points then?
Try running it though AI,
Might make more sense ☺️
 
Skiprat and Kompakted are the same bored disaffected person. Quoting himself. Looking to blame everyone and everything. A bit of sad case.
🤣🤣🤣

That's why you attack the person not the argument.

You don't how too. The problem with burying your head in sand is that doesn't solve any thing excepted exposing yourself to get fecked by everything.

You can't solve problems of you can't accept there is an issue.
 
I agree that everyone needs to be heard and everyone's concerns taken onboard regardless of agreement or not; that is the only way polarisation of the public ends. I am personally even OK discussing perspectives with racists until such a time as they show they're not interested in discussion (this is a reference to the world in general not this forum specifically).

Sadly, extremism everywhere has knocked the middle out. Such discussion seems to be the way of the dodo right now. The posture taken is very often an extreme (and myopically targetted) POV which publicly defines itself as being a specific form of extremism. There's also a huge lack of trust. Which then leads to assumptions and insults. I am genuinely not sure such conversations can happen right now, which in itself is tragic...
Most opinions are not extreme, it's just the left have lurched so far too the left that the definition of extreme has changed.
 
Walks in room, sees poster praise Farage....

Walks back out
Just proved my point entirely, the arrogance, to think you are so correct :tearsofjoy: :tearsofjoy: :tearsofjoy:

I'm mean, I hate the fella, but even I can see that what is written in the press is 99% BS, and you wonder why Reform party got the 3rd highest number of votes.
 
Coward.

You don't want to debate, because you know you will lose.

Its laughable.
It certainly is - but not in the way you perceive, I fear.

I’ve never used the ignore function on this site before, but there’s a first time for everything. Life’s too short.
 
It certainly is - but not in the way you perceive, I fear.

I’ve never used the ignore function on this site before, but there’s a first time for everything. Life’s too short.
See, run away coward, can't argue my points.

And using a smarmy comment to think that some how you are superior. If you were that superior you would be able to counter my claims.
 
I have pointed Starmer giving away Chagos without even speaking to the natives from island, not even single consideration towards Mauritius and links with Chilna, and what China has been upto in the South China Sea, and the Chinese Silk Road program, and what they have been doing Africa... you even ignored this.

Giving Chagos to Mauritius is in line with UN resolutions passed in 2019 (or 2021, I can't remember) which didn't recognise the Chagossians as being the people to discuss things with but that UK should 'return' Chagos to Mauritius. Hardly Starmer's fault he is following International expectations.
 
Okay, well she is against Net Zero because it's just a buzz word, spouted by politicians to sound green to the gullible masses to by voted

The problem is, most of Net Zero is pushing our Carbon footprint of poorer developing countries, especially within food production. With mass immigration to the UK, this problem of shifting our Carbon footprint is only going to get worse and the burden being placed upon foreign poorer and developing countries, who they themselves are having to address a growing population, and expected to feel the effects of Climate Change first.

Will post a link to a study from Aberdeen and Edinburgh University on this. So you can read for yourself.

EDIT: As promised - https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rsif.2015.1001 - Global cropland and greenhouse gas impacts of UK food supply are increasingly located overseas

Net Zero is a buzzword to hoodwink the gullible masses.

And carbon capture is joke and Labour pronouncing it like it is a great thing, pumping £22 billion (that is where the missing money went) into a project that doesn't even begin to address so many problems. We need invest in new green technologies in spheres of thermal and solar, Wind is absolute garbage and causes so many problems, decimating bird and bat populations. As I posted in the Climate Change thread, the government should be investing in the projects so you don't carbon capture in the first place and Port Talbot can compete on the global market, as the biggest cost to them is the cost of energy.

Now, the next point, what is wrong about her views on Trans people?

She's recognised and even met with known trans hate groups, such as the LGB alliance.

When discussing trans women she has still used the term men.

She wanted the FCA to move away from trans inclusive workplace policies.

She's suggested that trans immigrants should have their gender reclassified should they have self identified in another country.

I'll save you asking the question on gay marriage, she supported Kate Forbes, after she outed herself as also being a homophobe.

Badenoch is a bigot.
 
Giving Chagos to Mauritius is in line with UN resolutions passed in 2019 (or 2021, I can't remember) which didn't recognise the Chagossians as being the people to discuss things with but that UK should 'return' Chagos to Mauritius. Hardly Starmer's fault he is following International expectations.
Bloke has hump with immigrants but moans about us giving up and island Thousand of miles away. These confused bigots never fail to expose themselves with their nonsense
 
Constructive solutions? You need to debate points first before you get to that stage and it's funny because no one is arguing the points, ists and phobes as per the norm 🤣 😂

Like this one, you call it diatribe, but you are not debating a single point I made, because you know I'm right, and your scared your precious little bubble will burst and all that you know to be true is wrong.

I mean, if I was so wrong, then why are you not debating those points then?

It’s very simple: you can outline the problem then list the solution.

Rather than just rant away like some nut on a park bench. “Immigrants, Stammer blah blah rant”
 
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