You wouldn't know a fact if it punched you in the face.
Pathetic. Regardless of what you post, you still know nothing, and your head is still buried in the sand.
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Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)
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You wouldn't know a fact if it punched you in the face.
Pathetic. Regardless of what you post, you still know nothing, and your head is still buried in the sand.
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I provide links to actual studies and you post link to the guardian and politico.... both biased pro-remain newspapers... No wonder you don't know nothing and your views are blinkered.
SpiderSpurs
Darren Caskey
Not had a chance to have look, been doing some work.
But I will take a look, when I get 5.
My main concern is the fact that no one is listening it seems to the wishes of the native people and they have big reservations over the deal, especially as it seem they were not consulted.
Edit, goes and has a look whilst writing this reply XD
It also seems (had a quick look), correct me if I am wrong, that Mauritius has never held sovereignty over the Chagos, it was the a French dependency administered from Mauritius. Colonised around 1700s and the Chagossians were former French slaves that were taken there. Not native to the Island themselves. Both Islands were then handed to British by the French who relinquished sovereignty and been a British island ever since.
If this is correct, why are we giving the islands back to Mauritius? No laid claim to those islands until the French took over. I don't get it, something seems fishy to me and as I pointed out before, the UN is corrupt and useless.
I can't seem to find anything regarding anyone residing on the island before the Portuguese (found) and and French arrived with slaves. Admittedly I have not searched for long.
I watched a documentary years ago about how crap the people were being treated there... The Americans promised to give them clean drinking water, water pump or something and it never happened. Either way, it made me want to kick someone in the dingdong.
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SpurMeUp
Les Howe
Or you can stop calling people racist for knowing more than you and pretending that everything is okay and that mass immigration is not sustainable and is having some serious negative effects on the country.
Fancy calling someone a racist for taking the stance that treating women like shyte, denying the an education, is not the kind of ideology we want to bring into the country.
You are living in absolute denial, it's astonishing.
It’s like trying to converse with the drunk village idiot
You were not able to acknowledge that ALL cultures have ugly sides to them. You didn’t respond to the academic research that refuted the evidence for Muslim *struggle cuddle* gangs. You cling onto Brexit even though you got massive increases in immigration as a result.
Still claiming it was a success -showing how entrenched and deluded you are!I get it, you’ve watched a few right wing angry videos online and now think you are waging some kind of crusade. There is an issue with immigration, but you’re unlikely to grasp the basic details of the problem instead preferring to take a hateful bigoted approach. You’re unable to offer any solutions and don’t have any detailed understanding of sociology or economics, despite thinking you’ve got some deep insight. Keep hating and watch it eat you up.
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SpurMeUp
Les Howe
What work do you do?
WALOB. Why don’t you invite these poor people to the UK?
Lost Mango
Pascal Chimbonda
The establishment to prevent progress
Please enlighten me on what is so amusing? Fairly typical response from someone in a bunker.
You clueless muppet.
And I'm an ecologist. So I get to see and understand the wholesale destruction and collapse the UK's natural wildlife.... And overseas....
So yeah... I'm sick to death of left wing and right wing nut jobs talking bollox about things they clearly don't understand.
Biggest assholes being those leftwing tacos that cry we need to save our natural wildlife in the UK, then promote policies like mass immigration that puts enormous pressures such systems.
Like I keep saying, you know f*ck all.
SpurMeUp
Les Howe
I doubt it. But that’s another thing to add to your negative list. Where you bleat on about the ills, and offer up no insightful detail, let alone potential solutions. Easy to criticise, harder to create.
You clueless muppet.
And I'm an ecologist. So I get to see and understand the wholesale destruction and collapse the UK's natural wildlife.... And overseas....
You defo fit the profile.
You don’t think we should save our wildlife, while also looking after human animals?
You know you’ve won the argument, when all you can do is throw facile insults (2) and are not able to debate the issues.
That is 3-0
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Grays_1890
Chris Jones
Gilzeantoscore
Justin Edinburgh
So tell me, where are you working as an 'ecologist'?
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Grays_1890
Chris Jones
The house of Geppetto
Just with the news on Sue Gray, is there a precedent for a new government to be facing effectively no opposition, not have some giant national issue to contend with like a world war, financial crash, brexit or a pandemic and yet be in full-blown melt down cluster**** mode within 3 months of stepping foot in office? I for one can't remember such a complete sh**show develop so quickly.
Gilzeantoscore
Justin Edinburgh
Hyperbole much? That is the narrative of the right wing media. In reality nothing much has happened that can be attributed solely to the governm,ent. It's not like they crashed the ecomoy or anything!
It's a question. The government seem dysfunctional and have given their political opponents and enemies in the press ammunition after ammunition. You've got people resigning, you've got briefings to the press left right and centre. The whole things been a total sh** show and as to crashing the economy, governments don't really crash economies but what they can do is set the tone for a loss of economc confidence and at the same time create the economic conditions that make a crash possible. The negative outlook "I've got a £22 billion hole to fill and no money to fill it" is an unnecessary own-goal in terms of consumer and investor confidence and most analysts are now approaching the autumn budget with trepidation - things could go downhill fast.
ricky2tricky4city
Steffen Freund
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Yes, people will take it negatively, and GHod forbid any suggestion things might be painful for a bit. But the bottom line is it is reality.
As for a 'brickshow'..?...Everywhere you turn there's a brickshow going on... apparently.
It's not a negative outlook...it's a truthful outlook...the mantra Labour were following since being elected.
Yes, people will take it negatively, and GHod forbid any suggestion things might be painful for a bit. But the bottom line is it is reality.
As for a 'brickshow'..?...Everywhere you turn there's a brickshow going on... apparently.
It's not actually a truthful outlook. There are always gaps between what the government commits to spend and what they're bringing in and that's often created by circumstance and the gap that often exists between what a tax change should bring in on paper versus what it actually brings in, due to unpredictable changes in behaviour that can result from new taxes or rises in existing taxation.
For example, a "black hole" is currently being created by Rachel Reeves who is signing off significant uplifts in government spending in areas such as public sector pay and other manifesto pledges while also apparently u-turning on a variety of policies that were designed to "pay for" these rises:
- It looks like there will be a u-turn on scrapping the non-dom status after analysis showed it wouldn't bring in any additional revenue and may actually result in a drop in revenue as wealthy investors leave the UK.
- It also looks like there will be a u-turn on the scrapping of pensions tax relief on high earners as it will disproportionately impact public sector workers.
- it looks like there may also be a u-turh on private equity investor tax changes (where private equity investment returns are taxed as capital gains rather than income) as again treasury analysis has predicted the change would cost the treasury over £350 million a year in revenue). Again, this isn't rocket science as it will make UK registered funds less attractive to invest in compared to other country's funds, resulting in a drop off in UK investment and a reduction in revenue even though the tax has been raised.
The budget is going to be really interesting on terms of where Labour actually go given the wriggle room they've given themselves with their ridiculous fiscal rules and commitments not to raise taxes for "working people".
Robspur12
Nick Barmby
They inherited a brick show from the previous lot unfortunately. A war in the middle East which has caused societal polarisation; a toxic narrative on immigration which contributed to national riots; NHS backlog; criminal justice backlog; Council finances in dire straits and seemingly several effectively "bust." That's before the economic strait jacket that is brexit. Many of the problems are immediate. They dealt with the riots well IMHO. The rest of the issues will take longer to turn around. Now, there have been several missteps by Starmer and Co but I don't get the same impression of chaos that has been associated with Tories over recent years. So it wasn't like they were left a great set of circumstances which they then turned to brick despite how the client journalists of the right are spinning it. They are trying to make the best of the brick and it's early days.
I think Sunak was a decent guy (more than can be said for the previous 2 PMs) just not a very good PM. Several Tories were left scratching their heads as to why he called the election in July rather than later in year. Honestly, I felt he had just had enough of both his colleagues and the problems facing the country.
I was talking more about the obvious infighting, chaotic communications and the complete tone deafness regarding the look of years of criticising Boris Johnson's wall paper, tory party donations and holidays at mates houses only to get in power and basically do exactly the same stuff. Even saw Jess Philips today saying that scrutiny of Victoria Starmer financial activity should be off limits when she and many others argued the opposite in respect of Rishi Sunak's wife. The complete incompetence of effectively relying on a "we are not the tories and we won't act like them" to get in and then rubbing the British public's face in it straight away is breathtaking to watch and as per most political analysts I don't think the average British voter will forget it quickly.