Juve show up and gazump us in January. How many times were we 'gazumped' when we were a regular PL side? Like so many siutuations, if we'd been prepared to show the money when contact was made, who knows? I was always suspicious of the Diaz debacle; were we being used all along by his reps to smoke Liverpool out, or if we'd shown the money on first demand, could we have done the deal. As for the doom cycle, I have little doubt it began for you then because you do not like the manager and want him out. I still believe our recruitment has sorely let the club down.