DeanoAustin
Les Ferdinand
We drew at their place last year and really could have won it.
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Welcome Ange: To Dare is to Didgeridoo
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DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
Think it's a language thing. I just interpret it as consistently beating someone, which Arteta does to Postecoglou. Didn't mean to imply we get battered, which we largely don't outside of that first half at home last season.
SteveAWOL
Paul Stewart
He’s been unfortunate to have taken charge at a time when our most hated rivals have their best side in many years but it’s still galling to lose 3 NLDs at The Lane on the trot, even back in Wenger’s pomp when we were a mid-table club we never so much as lost 2 in a row at home.
I also want Postecoglou to be given the rest of this season to try and instill his philosophy to this newly assembled squad and hope that our easier run of fixtures ahead see a big improvement in results.
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
If that's the case, he's been in dreamland since game 10 last season.
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
It's not just social media. Media themselves are starting to ask hard questions and make unflattering comparisons that were largely suppressed last season because of the 'lost Kane, new style, needs time to adapt' factors.
He's gotten away with vibes so far, but for his own sake, he needs to chalk up some wins soon, because otherwise this pattern only ends one way and that's with him out the door come November.
Mikey10
Steffen Iversen
10 of today’s starters were regulars last season.
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
He has only beaten him 2/3 of the time
And those times needed some very “fortunate” officials on his side
SteveAWOL
Paul Stewart
When Odegaard was confirmed out as well as Rice I was quietly confident but the fact that we lost whilst still played such turgid football is disappointing.
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
That for me is the issue
Even the players that finished were mainly ones that were here
I’ve said it before but I won’t judge until 10 games
But he has to start using his squad better to change things
Unless he Downey believe they are good enough …
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
Their football was worse IMO. They just defend well
Both sides lacked quality
The passing was poor
And their wasn’t any real chances
I thought it was as poor a NLD as I’ve seen in some time
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
And Postecoglou has beaten him 0% of the time, and it's not like we haven't had luck on our end - remember Raya's pass straight to Romero last season? They were missing half a dozen players for this game iirc (Odegaard, Merino, Calafiori, Rice) - the only one missing on our end was Bissouma.
Not like Postecoglou didn't have luck on his side mate - he just hasn't been able to make it count.
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
Half a dozen
You sound like the UK press
They were missing 2 starters
We were missing 1
let’s not flip everything to suit an agenda. Kinda kills the discussion
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
Depends on if you consider players they signed this summer to be starters mate. Broader point being, they were more hamstring by injuries than we were - not like Arteta has had all the luck and Postecoglou none. It's just that Arteta found a way to win, while Postecoglou to date has never been able to beat Arteta.
SteveAWOL
Paul Stewart
Hopefully the newer additions to our squad will be taking a few of those places in upcoming months if the old guard keep letting him down.
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
I’d say that players who haven’t started a game for them, by definition, aren’t starters
They did however have 2 players out who are starters. One injured and the other from a red card, just like the one timber should have got and the one Nketiah should have got too
I don’t think they have found a way to beat Ange. They have found a way that they play. That’s it. Keep it tight and try to get the that goal then counter. It’s an effective system when you have had 4 years to drill it and £650m spent. I’d expect that TBH because time is huge for managers
So imo both teams were missing starters due to injuries and they were missing another because he has a ban
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
We had no midweek games all season last year, so he had a solid year on the training pitch. Yet we got worse.
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
Ange said he would prefer more games or get a Rhythm and to get time in fringe players legs
That actually makes so much sense it will go over the head of some
Daisuk
Nayim
I don’t think we’d be buying the players we do if we didn’t mean to back Ange for the season - and I’m not Ange out at all - things change quickly in football and suddenly we’re flying again - but I do hope we have some sort of contingency plan for a manager that would be able to utilize this squad well if we continue to not get results for a few more months.
Still, it’s early days for the season, I think we will bounce back. Support the lads and don’t let yourself get consumed by the negativity that will no doubt follow todays result. We will bounce back.
Still, it’s early days for the season, I think we will bounce back. Support the lads and don’t let yourself get consumed by the negativity that will no doubt follow todays result. We will bounce back.
It’s a good point.