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Welcome Ange: To Dare is to Didgeridoo
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fernadez
Simon Davies
Putting rotation to the side, which I think we all agree was the right thing to do, I've still not seen any theories explaining the different tactical setups, and the reason for them.
If we're setting up one way cause we think we can win the competition, what are we doing in the league? He said himself he thought we could win it, so he's approached it to win. Why were we not approaching league games tactically to win them?
Still doesn't sit right with me.
If we're setting up one way cause we think we can win the competition, what are we doing in the league? He said himself he thought we could win it, so he's approached it to win. Why were we not approaching league games tactically to win them?
Still doesn't sit right with me.
No it's not and I've already said we were prioritising, but it's also true what I said regarding the league teams being similar to the cup teams around the time we played AZ so...
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Nayim
You sure that wasn't down to injuries? Who did we drop for the AZ games? Sorry, haven't checked, but it sounds like you've looked into it?
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Nayim
Injuries meant we were in a league position where we couldn't get relegated, and couldn't get Europe qualification. We also couldn't risk more injuries in the league.
I looked in to it a while back, so not got details fresh in the mind. Livescore app is quick way to check line ups if you have the time
fernadez
Simon Davies
By setting up in a way that meant we were harder to beat?
tommysvr
Michael Carrick
Not just here to plug my website at every opportunity but I built a way to compare lineups from one match to any other in a season:
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Spurs 3-1 AZ Alkmaar on 13 March 2025 - Lineup
Lineups, weather, programme and every other bit of information you could want from the Europa League match between Tottenham Hotspur and AZ Alkmaar on 13 March 2025.
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Nayim
Without knowing the injury situation, that looks like we rested VdV, Maddison and Son in the league? Think Bentancur was suspended in Europe?Not just here to plug my website at every opportunity but I built a way to compare lineups from one match to any other in a season:
Spurs 3-1 AZ Alkmaar on 13 March 2025 - Lineup
Lineups, weather, programme and every other bit of information you could want from the Europa League match between Tottenham Hotspur and AZ Alkmaar on 13 March 2025.
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Nayim
Not showing his hand in league games? Rather than wasting time on tactics for league opponents, putting more time into tactics for Europa opponents?
glasgowspur
Colin Calderwood
I don't have the skills, but can someone photoshop the EL trophy onto that pic of the ange lookie like postie delivering the trophy.
Gazza Dazzla
Christian Ziege
I think it’s massively down to this, we basically lost our edge in the league, dropped a few % in effort and focus, that along with the second string teams due to injury and or rotation since October/November time account for the league performances and results.
Can’t see that being allowed next season and if it does head that way then Ange won’t be here.
fernadez
Simon Davies
Again, that doesn't explain the tactics and game management from the manager.
The truth is no one really knows except Ange. All I can really think of is this;
I would imagine that changing tactics for the latter stages of the Europa was a tough call for him to make as it goes against all his stated principles and in doing so was basically an admission that his plan A "it's who we are" tactic just doesn't work against decent teams (a few outlier games excepted). So he changed it for Frankfurt, got the result and stuck with it.
Why didn't he do it in the league then?
Maybe he thought it wouldn't work in the PL against better teams with better players who would have likely found it easier to breakdown than Bodo or United. I dont think it would have changed the results, especially with the rotations he made in the last 5 or 6 league games.
Also, he may have thought, rightly so, that the fans would accept the pragmatism and lack of attacking intent with the carrot of a very winnable trophy at the end of it in the EL. But seeing it every week in the PL and still losing would have lead to even more criticism and dismay.
That's all I got, but I'm probably just tinkling in the wind.