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Ange’s system / formation

Bedfordspurs said:
Except for Jol
That was levy reacting to a shiny new toy
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Jol was also flirting with Saudi Sportswashing Machine. Didn't agree with the decision and definitely not the way it was handled, league position and performances in Europe would've been the major factors but not the only ones.
 
Jurgen the German said:
Did the fans hound our previous managers? That’s not how I remember it, granted I didn’t go to many games during Nuno’s brief reign. I don’t remember anyone calling for Jose to go on the eve of a cup final, that one was on Levy. Don’t recall Conte getting a backlash either, i think he pretty much fired himself with his rant after the Soton game was it? If anything the disgruntlement has been aimed at Levy rather than the managers. I remain skeptical that levy would keep a manager around if he finished lower than 6th. Especially more than once like Arteta did before they started to challenge.
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Same with Poch and Redknapp as well. No calling for either of them to go at the games. When they sacked Nuno the chants at the stadium were actually ENIC out not Nuno out.
 
Reasons for sackings:

Martin Jol - fans had been saying for ages he's taken us as far as he can, and Levy listened.
Juande Ramos - outside distractions, and relegation form.
Harry Redknapp - took the tinkle, and Levy for an idiot.
André Villas-Boas - busted flush.
Mauricio Pochettino - drained and wanted out, and relegation form. It dragged out because fans (and Levy) didn't want to have to sack him.
José Mourinho - fans wanted rid, and Levy listened.
Nuno Espírito Santo - Conte (original target) became available.
Antonio Conte - fuct off!
 
Finney Is Back said:
Not as impatient as the chairman. Redknapp and Poch both sacked without fans calling for it.
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Loads of people wanted both out. Redknapp because he wanted the England job, causing us to drop from 2nd to 5th. Poch because we struggled so badly throughout 2019, and many wrongly thought, including me, that we needed a change.
 
Lemonade Money said:
Reasons for sackings:

Martin Jol - fans had been saying for ages he's taken us as far as he can, and Levy listened.
Juande Ramos - outside distractions, and relegation form.
Harry Redknapp - took the tinkle, and Levy for an idiot.
André Villas-Boas - busted flush.
Mauricio Pochettino - drained and wanted out, and relegation form. It dragged out because fans (and Levy) didn't want to have to sack him.
José Mourinho - fans wanted rid, and Levy listened.
Nuno Espírito Santo - Conte (original target) became available.
Antonio Conte - fuct off!
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Or….

Jol: Looked like he would miss out on European qualification that year - sacked!
Ramos: Looked like he would miss out on European qualification that year - sacked!
Redknapp: Missed out on CL qualification - sacked!
AVB: Looked like he would miss out on CL (and maybe Europe altogether) that year - sacked!
Sherwood: Missed out on CL - sacked!
Pochettino: Looked like he would miss out on CL qualification that year (after qualifying 4 years in a row) - sacked!
Mourinho: Tried to prioritise winning a domestic cup over a very slim chance of CL qualification - sacked!
Nuno: Looked like he would miss out on European qualification that year - sacked!
Conte: Looked like he would miss out on CL qualification that year - sacked!
Stellini: Looked like he would miss out on Europe altogether that year - sacked!

History shows us that if we look unlikely to qualify for CL next year then Ange is likely toast….
 
tommysvr said:
Loads of people wanted both out. Redknapp because he wanted the England job, causing us to drop from 2nd to 5th. Poch because we struggled so badly throughout 2019, and many wrongly thought, including me, that we needed a change.
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No evidence of either at the games. It was 4th place that Redknapp had us finishing in by the way. Sacking him made no sense.
 
Finney Is Back said:
Or….

Jol: Looked like he would miss out on European qualification that year - sacked!
Ramos: Looked like he would miss out on European qualification that year - sacked!
Redknapp: Missed out on CL qualification - sacked!
AVB: Looked like he would miss out on CL (and maybe Europe altogether) that year - sacked!
Sherwood: Missed out on CL - sacked!
Pochettino: Looked like he would miss out on CL qualification that year (after qualifying 4 years in a row) - sacked!
Mourinho: Tried to prioritise winning a domestic cup over a very slim chance of CL qualification - sacked!
Nuno: Looked like he would miss out on European qualification that year - sacked!
Conte: Looked like he would miss out on CL qualification that year - sacked!
Stellini: Looked like he would miss out on Europe altogether that year - sacked!

History shows us that if we look unlikely to qualify for CL next year then Ange is likely toast….
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You know quite well there's more to each of those
 
Finney Is Back said:
No evidence of either at the games. It was 4th place that Redknapp had us finishing in by the way. Sacking him made no sense.
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Redknapp wasn't about league position. Levys mum had just died so he took time off. Lewis took over in the interim. Redknapp came in demanding a new contract. After turning one down in jan. The court case and the england fiasco. Lewis told him to do one.
 
Lilbaz said:
Redknapp wasn't about league position. Levys mum had just died so he took time off. Lewis took over in the interim. Redknapp came in demanding a new contract. After turning one down in jan. The court case and the england fiasco. Lewis told him to do one.
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So we can agree that one had nothing to do with fan power then. I agree, Redknapp irked levy by asking for a new contract just weeks after hitching his skirt to the FA. And we should have finished 3rd, that was a time for Arry to lay low and keep his head down after embarrassingly finishing behind a one man team Arsenal side but that’s not who he is. He can’t help himself when it comes to the media.
 
DubSpur said:
You know quite well there's more to each of those
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Absolutely agree. But it’s also completely wrong to say the fans cost any of those managers their jobs. I’m not saying we don’t have impatient fans, but Levy is not patient either and I doubt he pays much attention to fans anyway. If he did he wouldn’t have hired so many ex Chelsea managers. You’re right when you say there’s more to those sackings but they were more do to with Levy than the fans.
 
Finney Is Back said:
Or….

Jol: Looked like he would miss out on European qualification that year - sacked!
Ramos: Looked like he would miss out on European qualification that year - sacked!
Redknapp: Missed out on CL qualification - sacked!
AVB: Looked like he would miss out on CL (and maybe Europe altogether) that year - sacked!
Sherwood: Missed out on CL - sacked!
Pochettino: Looked like he would miss out on CL qualification that year (after qualifying 4 years in a row) - sacked!
Mourinho: Tried to prioritise winning a domestic cup over a very slim chance of CL qualification - sacked!
Nuno: Looked like he would miss out on European qualification that year - sacked!
Conte: Looked like he would miss out on CL qualification that year - sacked!
Stellini: Looked like he would miss out on Europe altogether that year - sacked!

History shows us that if we look unlikely to qualify for CL next year then Ange is likely toast….
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You flit between European or CL qualification to suit your agenda. And it's gonads anyway.
 
Finney Is Back said:
No evidence of either at the games. It was 4th place that Redknapp had us finishing in by the way. Sacking him made no sense.
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He took the tinkle, he neglected Spurs to flirt with England. When he knew he wasn't getting the England job, he publicly told Levy to back him! You can't have the manager mugging you off, just like a manager can't have players mugging him off. The only person who got Redknapp sacked was himself.
 
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