Ange’s system / formation

[braineclipse]

Our counter attacks are mainly in the opposition half I believe
I’ll see if i can find the stats on it
It’s the winning of the ball like Davies did at the weekend that counts

I agree that's probably the main reason for our numbers being top of the pile.

But I also think we're good at counter attacking from deep. It's just rather rare to score from that (for everyone).

Not a massive difference between counter attacking from deep (often against some kind of gegenpress) and playing through a high press. And we're usually good at both, and usually struggle quite a bit when we don't manage that.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

I agree that's probably the main reason for our numbers being top of the pile.

But I also think we're good at counter attacking from deep. It's just rather rare to score from that (for everyone).

Not a massive difference between counter attacking from deep (often against some kind of gegenpress) and playing through a high press. And we're usually good at both, and usually struggle quite a bit when we don't manage that.

Yeah true

 

[metalgear]

Our counter attacks are mainly in the opposition half I believe
I’ll see if i can find the stats on it
It’s the winning of the ball like Davies did at the weekend that counts

in the villa game we had less possession than them in the second half and scored more.

the importance of having a solid defence is that it allows us to take risks , lose the ball, then win on the counter with more men up front

 

[glasgowspur]

in the villa game we had less possession than them in the second half and scored more.

the importance of having a solid defence is that it allows us to take risks , lose the ball, then win on the counter with more men up front

As a matter of interest, how skewed are the possession figures by their gk hogging the ball for sometimes 20 seconds at a time?

 

[Bedfordspurs]

in the villa game we had less possession than them in the second half and scored more.

the importance of having a solid defence is that it allows us to take risks , lose the ball, then win on the counter with more men up front

We defend from the front

 

[ricky2tricky4city]

As a matter of interest, how skewed are the possession figures by their gk hogging the ball for sometimes 20 seconds at a time?

I always thought possession would be calculated in a similar way to a chess clock.....but discovered a while back it isn't. (Well not by Opta).....

How Opta Measure Possession.
Analysts developed another method based on the number of passes. If in a game there was a total of 800 passes made by both teams, one team making 480 and the other 320, then the first team was deemed to have had 60% possession. This was the method that the analysts at Opta used until 2017. It gives more of a sense of which team was controlling the ball than relying on time, but there are flaws to it. It does not include types of possession such as dribbling or knocking the ball past an opponent to run on to it.

Since 2017, Opta has used a new metric, based not on the number of passes but the number of ‘possessions.’ They define a possession as starting when a player takes a controlled touch of the ball and ending when he no longer has control due to an event such as an interception or a shot. The number of possessions in a game is then added together to create percentages for each team. Opta send a three-man team to each game they cover. The team apply the possession criteria to judge the extent to which touches are controlled. Their data is used by the BBC, BT Sport, Sky Sports and the Premier League, making it the possession stat you are most likely to see