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Euro 2016 - Crowd Trouble

Why didn't the French Police do anything about the Russian ultras? Have you been on holiday in southern europe? the Russians do what they like and the locals are scared of them and their kids.
 
K.D.D.D.D.Soc said:
Why didn't the French Police do anything about the Russian ultras? Have you been on holiday in southern europe? the Russians do what they like and the locals are scared of them and their kids.
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They deported a full busload on their way to Lille this morning.

Meanwhile Lokomotiv Moscow hooligans (Orel Butchers) attacked english and welsh outside a pub in Lille http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/england-fans-under-attack-russian-8191573

Poor lad in brown t shirt doing nothing before and after
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There is something else going on here.

It's to organised, to uniformed, to military and to targeted on us.

The lack of condemnation from Russian officials (and often the approval) speaks volumes.

The make-up of the Russian Euro 2016 delegate.

State`sponsored?
 
When you think the likes of Fifa and Uefa cant get any worse
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...18-football-politics-angel-maria-villar-llona

Villar Llona is currently interim head of Uefa. He is officially in charge of this tournament. He will present the trophy to the winners on 10 July. His eye is on everything that passes here. Villar Llona also has another important job. In his spare time he’s the Fifa bureau chairman of Russia 2018.

Just digest that for a moment. The head of Uefa, a body tasked with resolving Russia’s and England’s disciplinary problems while at the mercy of a vast breaking wave of interests, is also Fifa head of Russia’s World Cup.

In this he works directly with Vitaly Mutko, longstanding Russian sporting-political powerbroker and Villar Llona’s close friend and associate. Mutko was in Marseille on Saturday night and could be seen waving to the Russian fans at pitchside shortly before they rioted. Igor Lebedev, a Russian FA executive committee member, has since said: “If Mutko had been with the fans in the stands and was not an official, he would have also have got into the fight with the England fans.” Mutko has denied that this is the case. He is also, in all seriousness, Russia’s minister for sport.
Villar Llona is more familiar as the longstanding head of the Spanish FA. During his tenure Spain and Russia have formed an allegiance on governance issues. Plus, apparently, a kind of loyalty. Last year Villar Llona was fined 25,000 Swiss francs (£18,000) by Fifa’s ethics committee for refusing to cooperate sufficiently with the Michael Garcia investigation into alleged corruption surrounding Russia’s World Cup bid.
 
Modric THFC said:
When you think the likes of Fifa and Uefa cant get any worse
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...18-football-politics-angel-maria-villar-llona

Villar Llona is currently interim head of Uefa. He is officially in charge of this tournament. He will present the trophy to the winners on 10 July. His eye is on everything that passes here. Villar Llona also has another important job. In his spare time he’s the Fifa bureau chairman of Russia 2018.

Just digest that for a moment. The head of Uefa, a body tasked with resolving Russia’s and England’s disciplinary problems while at the mercy of a vast breaking wave of interests, is also Fifa head of Russia’s World Cup.

In this he works directly with Vitaly Mutko, longstanding Russian sporting-political powerbroker and Villar Llona’s close friend and associate. Mutko was in Marseille on Saturday night and could be seen waving to the Russian fans at pitchside shortly before they rioted. Igor Lebedev, a Russian FA executive committee member, has since said: “If Mutko had been with the fans in the stands and was not an official, he would have also have got into the fight with the England fans.” Mutko has denied that this is the case. He is also, in all seriousness, Russia’s minister for sport.
Villar Llona is more familiar as the longstanding head of the Spanish FA. During his tenure Spain and Russia have formed an allegiance on governance issues. Plus, apparently, a kind of loyalty. Last year Villar Llona was fined 25,000 Swiss francs (£18,000) by Fifa’s ethics committee for refusing to cooperate sufficiently with the Michael Garcia investigation into alleged corruption surrounding Russia’s World Cup bid.
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Yet despite all that the UEFA still came down harder on Russia than on England and the threat of expulsion still remains. UEFA is not a one-man band and I'm sure if he speaks out of place he will be corrected.
 
camspur said:
Yet despite all that the UEFA still came down harder on Russia than on England and the threat of expulsion still remains. UEFA is not a one-man band and I'm sure if he speaks out of place he will be corrected.
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Q: What's the difference between a suspended sentence that doesn't get actioned and no suspended sentence at all?

A: A bit of PR.
 
camspur said:
Yet despite all that the UEFA still came down harder on Russia than on England and the threat of expulsion still remains. UEFA is not a one-man band and I'm sure if he speaks out of place he will be corrected.
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The suspended expulsion charge is solely related to the stadium incidents, Russia had pitch invaders, pyro usage and broke thru segregation and charged/attacked opposing fans. Dont think Englands charge sheet is that long.

The outside/city trouble was dealt with seperately.
 
Hidden said:
I didn't try to argue any of your points. Your argued mine about UEFA's relation to outside riots. So I tried to explain that even if outside events are fullfilled with cruelty (which English fans showed especially on Thursday/Friday and Russian ultra's thugs before and on match day), UEFA won't take strong actions as we've seen. If they did, both Russia and England should have already got a suspended disqualification judjing what their fans produced in Marseile.
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A warning to England about possible disqualification from the tournament is a pretty strong response from UEFA based on what has happened in the past imo.

Again. Just because Russia got a stricter response from UEFA for worse behavior from some of your fans doesn't mean UEFA should be doing the same for all fan trouble.
 
A fan lit a flare and waved it around.

Area was far from packed.

I expect him to be targetted rather than Russia.
 
With all the security and the incident in Paris earlier this year how the hell are people managing to get flares into the ground?


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