thfcsteff
Vic Buckingham
@Gutter Boy ...big week for your 'dream team recruitment team' to conjure something other than abject failure in the outfield January window...
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Injuries
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Probably because he's trying to win games and thinks he needs his best XI out there rather than any XI.
braineclipse
Terry Dyson
For this period of a lot of injuries it comes down to three players to me. (By that time Spence was already being used, Gray and Bergvall were being integrated). But Reguilon, Lankshear and Werner (pre getting injured himself) could have been used more.
We don't know if that would have worked, but the "gamble" on not using them certainly hasn't worked out well.
Definitely not saying Ange hasn't made mistakes here. But even his unfavoured options have been limited.
Bedfordspurs
Terry Naylor
That’s 3 players he clearly doesn’t rate or doesn’t want here
Bedfordspurs
Terry Naylor
It’s that
He is trying to get from game to game to keep his job
Finney Is Back
Colin Calderwood
When your season hinges on those players being used more you know you're really not in a good place.
braineclipse
Terry Dyson
I hope that's not the case because it's not going to lead to sustainability and good decision making. But it may very well be the case.
Bedfordspurs
Terry Naylor
It must be the case because his job currently isn’t sustainable
He has no credit in the bank and is on record lows
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Don't you think that our recruitment over the past 3 or so years has been about the best it ever has? We had a sweet spot around 2012 (Lloris, Verts and Dembele in one window), but other than that, our hit rate of late has been pretty phenomenal.
But there's a big difference between spotting an emerging Bergvall, or a forgotten about Kulu; to having to bring in 11pm on 24th December christmas presents from the BP garage because the family German Shepherd managed to sit on and eat all the ones you'd spent all year carefully accumulating.
thfcsteff
Vic Buckingham
...is the winning answer.
90291Spur
Cecil Poynton
Which has meant we are not winning games and the players that make up his best 11 are getting more injuries/are at risk of getting more injuries. This problem started early in the season with poor rotation and not using players (even sub-par or youth) that he has.
thfcsteff
Vic Buckingham
Reggie has been unrated for some time by a few managers; I'llmlet the rumour mill feed why, but it's out there. Credit to both him and Ange for getting anything out of him recently. Lankshear is a conundrum. I think several people -myself included- went early on him. He looked physically up to par and showed great movement in the box during pre-season. What appears to have unfolded is a player not quite as physically mature as I certainly thought, and someone who perhaps still has to learn more about his off the ball movement outside the box? I was all for him being given a run, and still find myself wishing he'd get more than 5 minutes, but I have to accept that there's something the staff are seeing I'm not (unless we think they're fudging us over intentionally). I don't know if he doesn't rate him per se more than knows he needs a good loan. Side-step - it will be harmful to Will if we don't get another striker in as he will not be able to be loaned for the rest of the season. A strange situation, and I would love -when things are calmer- for someone to offer some background. Werner? My mate said the day he was re-signed that it was a bull s hit move which showed how little we actually cared. I, being the optimist, thought we might still be able to unlock him given his pace. I think we have found this season that 'my mate' was right, I was wrong, and he lacks the mental courage to earn his weekly wage. I suspect Ange is just wildly disappointed in him?
So you would've started Ajayi, Olusesi and Yang at the weekend just to "rotate"?
Bullet
Colin Calderwood
Absolutely YES. And Donley/Devine/Lankshear/Hall
Just to give Sarr/Maddison/Porro/Deki/Son et al some rest. It all mounts up. Give them a break so they can come back stronger.
Put all the kids into 2 games and see what happens, JUST to give those players some rest, then those players can actually play at full throttle
Bedfordspurs
Terry Naylor
Lankshear probably has no confidence because of the way he has been left out
No matter what age you age if you get a chance, score but don’t get another you know your being judged ok the red card… which was because the ref wasn’t protecting him.
As daft as that was, I liked that he got stuck in and it’s exactly what we’re missing without Solanke
Reggie i can’t fault, but he ain’t the answer
Werner was cover and no more buy the club under estimated the injuries as we know
thfcsteff
Vic Buckingham
With Lankshear we really don't know.
I certainly like your assumption, but it could equally be that he responded very emotionally to being sent-off and was not able to let it run off his back, which in turn could suggest that he is not perhaps going to be helped by this current situation of thrown in at the deep end and cannot score goals. We just cannot be sure.
thfcsteff
Vic Buckingham
There is absolute logicv behind this in fairness, especially if we were to accept that fatigue is likely to see us lose these games anyway. But there are three things.
1) the platform of understanding would have to be massive. Those young players -and our supporters- would have to understand what the goal is here, and to not apportion any pressure or blame whatsoever. Something I think the current situation would simply not allow for.
2) if players such Donley and Devine were recalled, they would have to have some time working with the squad in order to have any true effect beyond just resting others.
3) the train of development for all these players is different. Hall, for example, is technically excellent b ut needs to develop a little more physical buff and dynamism to his game if we wants to be a Prem player (great potential of course).
Again, in the ideal world, we'd have started a bunch of youth players, rested seniors for at l;east 45 mins, the stafium would be rocking with support for our version of the Busby Babes and whatever actually happened, there'd be a fortress feeling that we were defiantly audere est facering. Unfortunately, it would be more likely that after 15 minutes the crowd would've started complaining, questioning the manager, telling Levy he's a c unt, and in one fell swoop, multiple youth players are set back due to circumstance. Again, I love the idea but it is (IMO) a fan's idea which sadly could never be practically applied.
Muttley
Allan Nielsen
Then he's ignoring the spirit of the agreement he entered into. I thought he was one manager that would sign up for the journey and fully leverage the squad he is given between transfer windows? Making your own squad smaller is just dumb.
Turns out he's no different from Jose and Conte.
Muttley
Allan Nielsen
And when he loses those games, is he above being questioned?
Of course not and I've not said hd shouldn't be.
But saying we should put out 16 year old to give players a rest makes zero sense because all we would hear then would be he shouldn't put kids out when we have fit players so he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.