Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

[EnfieldSpur]

I understand people being worried more than making baseless accusations because of those fears, which is what's happening on many of the posts.

Again the "Grooming gangs are asian therefore shows institutional abuse in those cultures" goes against the evidence. There were famous gangs of all white male grooming gangs in this country many famously at a political level and others. From the 2020 report 1,231 perpetrators of "group and gang-based child sexual exploitation", 42% were white, 14% were defined as Asian or Asian British and 17% black.

But again, Dave the plumber knows someone who knows someone who knows someone who read it on tiktok

And BTW no one is saying people don't have bad experiences but its a throwback to the 70s and 80s where people would have a bad encounter with someone from a different race or religion and use it as a stick to beat them all with............

I literally just made an account, to respond to this post. It's shocking that no one has picked up the obvious.

Your post is not the win you think it is.

The information, that you have provided, also shows that

Whites (80% of the population) account for just 42% of perpetrators.

BAME (20% of the population) account for the remaining 58% of perpetrators.

Your figures show that BAME are almost 3x more likely to *struggle cuddle* children than white people.

These are your figures remember. It seems that Dave the plumber is onto something.

When you look at the figures from the MoJ and look at religious groups in prison.

Christians, 60% of the population, make up about 45% of the prison population.

Muslims, 4%, of the population, make up 16% of the population.

How can you have an honest debate, if you are not telling the whole truth about the what the figures show?

And COYS

#Angeout
#Levyout

Enjoy.

 

[johnola]

Don't want to come across as anti Ukranian but in amongst all the discussions this week there's been barely any mention of how all this increased aid is going to be paid for. As a country we're already heavily in debt with crumbling public services and numerous other issues including sky high cost of living. More aid likely equals more borrowing and higher interest payments unless taxes are raised or money is diverted elsewhere. I think there needs to be a proper conversation about it, we know that increased poverty leads to higher mortality for example.

I feel like at the moment there's a tendency to blame Putin for everything wrong in the country, Russia aren't responsible for social issues, jobs, economy, public services, health etc yet these are huge issues that aren't factored into the aid mix.

I'd like us to provide aid but just think we need to be realistic about how much we can provide given how the UK is today.

I thought it was heavily publicised -from the international aid budget -the minister resigned last week.

 

[Grays_1890]

Rupert Lowe or Reform..............who to back?

Farage or Musk? ................ Who to back?

The confusion must be real now the infighting on the right has begun

 

[Grays_1890]

I literally just made an account, to respond to this post. It's shocking that no one has picked up the obvious.

Your post is not the win you think it is.

The information, that you have provided, also shows that

Whites (80% of the population) account for just 42% of perpetrators.

BAME (20% of the population) account for the remaining 58% of perpetrators.

Your figures show that BAME are almost 3x more likely to *struggle cuddle* children than white people.

These are your figures remember. It seems that Dave the plumber is onto something.

When you look at the figures from the MoJ and look at religious groups in prison.

Christians, 60% of the population, make up about 45% of the prison population.

Muslims, 4%, of the population, make up 16% of the population.

How can you have an honest debate, if you are not telling the whole truth about the what the figures show?

And COYS

#Angeout
#Levyout

Enjoy.

Dave the plumber would still be wrong because he is fudging the stats.

1 - We specifically were highlighting white v asian, clubbing the BAME into the figures to suit your agenda works for you, which is odd considering you later split by religion, so lets stick to the orignal point about asians and the CSE stats clearly show that whites are abusing kids and committing sexual offenses in this country more than anyone above and beyond the population % as shown in the other stats posted by @LutonSpurs

2 - Unless the 16% of Muslims in prison are all in prison for sexual offenses then those stats don't relate consistently with the topic, there will be undoubtedly other crimes in that 16% which means your point does not counter the stats I posted.............

3 - I think Dave needs a bigger fag pack to work his sums on

 

[LutonSpurs]

Dave the plumber would still be wrong because he is fudging the stats.

1 - We specifically were highlighting white v asian, clubbing the BAME into the figures to suit your agenda works for you, which is odd considering you later split by religion, so lets stick to the orignal point about asians and the CSE stats clearly show that whites are abusing kids and committing sexual offenses in this country more than anyone above and beyond the population % as shown in the other stats posted by @LutonSpurs

2 - Unless the 16% of Muslims in prison are all in prison for sexual offenses then those stats don't relate consistently with the topic, there will be undoubtedly other crimes in that 16% which means your point does not counter the stats I posted.............

3 - I think Dave needs a bigger fag pack to work his sums on

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Dave had the same sources as Chich it seems. Unknown ones couple with total data illiteracy.

 

[thfcsteff]

I literally just made an account, to respond to this post. It's shocking that no one has picked up the obvious.

Your post is not the win you think it is.

The information, that you have provided, also shows that

Whites (80% of the population) account for just 42% of perpetrators.

BAME (20% of the population) account for the remaining 58% of perpetrators.

Your figures show that BAME are almost 3x more likely to *struggle cuddle* children than white people.

These are your figures remember. It seems that Dave the plumber is onto something.

When you look at the figures from the MoJ and look at religious groups in prison.

Christians, 60% of the population, make up about 45% of the prison population.

Muslims, 4%, of the population, make up 16% of the population.

How can you have an honest debate, if you are not telling the whole truth about the what the figures show?

And COYS

#Angeout
#Levyout

Enjoy.

Nothing to 'enjoy' about someone who is proud to announce that the only reason they have joined a Tottenham Hotspur forum is to get into a 'debate' about BAME and 'struggle cuddling'...positive hashtags too.

BTW, "...your post is not the win you think it is"?!
Nobody's looking for a fudging 'win'. This is about getting information accurate and preventing such disgraceful crimes being hijacked by others with agendas.

Yeah, nothing to 'enjoy' here...

 

[SpurMeUp]

I thought it was heavily publicised -from the international aid budget -the minister resigned last week.

The aid budget is the tip of an iceberg. The sums we are about to spend on arms will be paid for by spending less on other things. At a time when public finances are squeezed - we spend more than we receive in tax. Someone has to pay. Funding for services and people in the UK will take a hit.

 

[johnola]

The aid budget is the tip of an iceberg. The sums we are about to spend on arms will be paid for by spending less on other things. At a time when public finances are squeezed - we spend more than we receive in tax. Someone has to pay. Funding for services and people in the UK will take a hit.

Wait till you see what the economy will look like in a war.

 

[SpurMeUp]

Wait till you see what the economy will look like in a war.

How’s the shelter coming along?