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On another topic, the Assisted Dying Bill seems to be a bone of contention for the church who would rather see their "Children of GHod" suffer in their last days. I find that astonishing and frankly an example of how spiteful religion can be. I get there are ethics involved in terms of who decides, but having see a good friend of mine die of stomach cancer, sound of mind he would have made the decision to have ended his own life earlier, who has the right to stop that? Its the utmost level of pain and suffering I have ever seen or care to ever see
Let religious people choose to suffer for their gods, and let the majority be able to choose a bit of dignity
 
Yes. Property value would almost certainly decrease and investors would leave the market. The flood of properties on the market would mean huge amounts of previous tenants would then become owners. Also that would result in lower competition for rental properties resulting in lower rent. Brilliant isn't it?
"UK buy-to-let landlords are selling up in record numbers due to worries about the prospect of higher taxes...a fifth of homes currently for sale were previously available to rent...a jump from around 14% over the past five years"
 
"UK buy-to-let landlords are selling up in record numbers due to worries about the prospect of higher taxes...a fifth of homes currently for sale were previously available to rent...a jump from around 14% over the past five years"
The man knows his onions
 
On another topic, the Assisted Dying Bill seems to be a bone of contention for the church who would rather see their "Children of GHod" suffer in their last days. I find that astonishing and frankly an example of how spiteful religion can be. I get there are ethics involved in terms of who decides, but having see a good friend of mine die of stomach cancer, sound of mind he would have made the decision to have ended his own life earlier, who has the right to stop that? Its the utmost level of pain and suffering I have ever seen or care to ever see
I'm 100% behind this bill passing
As you say it could end a lot of suffering for the person affected and also the family/friends struggling to cope whilst it's happening
 
"UK buy-to-let landlords are selling up in record numbers due to worries about the prospect of higher taxes...a fifth of homes currently for sale were previously available to rent...a jump from around 14% over the past five years"
Sounds encouraging. Keep tightening those screws a bit
 
On another topic, the Assisted Dying Bill seems to be a bone of contention for the church who would rather see their "Children of GHod" suffer in their last days. I find that astonishing and frankly an example of how spiteful religion can be. I get there are ethics involved in terms of who decides, but having see a good friend of mine die of stomach cancer, sound of mind he would have made the decision to have ended his own life earlier, who has the right to stop that? Its the utmost level of pain and suffering I have ever seen or care to ever see
Watched my mum die a terrible death last summer over a period of many weeks as a result of COPD. I was horrified that we allow people to die in this way; I was probably very ignorant, but I just didn’t know it happened in the modern medical world. The staff did everything they were legally allowed to do, but it just wasn’t enough to ease her suffering. I joined the Campaign for Assisted Dying shortly after her death.
 
Watched my mum die a terrible death last summer over a period of many weeks as a result of COPD. I was horrified that we allow people to die in this way; I was probably very ignorant, but I just didn’t know it happened in the modern medical world. The staff did everything they were legally allowed to do, but it just wasn’t enough to ease her suffering. I joined the Campaign for Assisted Dying shortly after her death.

Sorry for the loss mate, terrible, my dad has COPD and dementia so we have it to come there too (although granted trickier with dementia as the sound mind stuff).

Honestly the suffering I saw was scary and it just seemed cruel in the end. Like with your mum they did the legal requirement but gave him the morphine to control which like popularly said, finished him off, but by that time he was even unable to control that.

We have to do better IMO
 
Sorry for the loss mate, terrible, my dad has COPD and dementia so we have it to come there too (although granted trickier with dementia as the sound mind stuff).

Honestly the suffering I saw was scary and it just seemed cruel in the end. Like with your mum they did the legal requirement but gave him the morphine to control which like popularly said, finished him off, but by that time he was even unable to control that.

We have to do better IMO
For sure we do. Hope your dad is as comfortable as he can be.
 
"UK buy-to-let landlords are selling up in record numbers due to worries about the prospect of higher taxes...a fifth of homes currently for sale were previously available to rent...a jump from around 14% over the past five years"
I'm not sure how significant a 6% 'jump' is over 5 years?

With the tax changes, increased interest rates and the proposed AST law reforms I'm not surprised some people are jumping ship.

The supply of homes onto the market will increase choice and theoretically prices may slide BUT we usually have a standoff period, where sellers still want what they want and buyers still have affordability issues/mortgage rates to navigate.
 
Money, what else do you think they are going to take out the country and shove offshore tax free bank accounts, carrots?

It's not mindless, its not buying into BS that has been shoved down our throats for decades to justify the extreme wealth of a few people.

And the fact that that you have add to ask what they are talking out the country just tells me all I need to know.
What money are they taking out the country? A recent example poured over by the press? What money is Rishi Sunak's wife taking out the country?
 
For once we agree, the idea we get bullied into giving more lucrative terms to people who are stinking rich whilst they have a gun to our heads is a race to the bottom. I get what makes the world go round but how rich is enough. "if you don't let me keep my billions I will fcuk off to Dubai" I mean you could not get a scummier response from a human being who would not spend a Billion in 10 life times

People fan boy over the rich and get all doe eyed rather than realising that 11million in this country live closer to poverty whilst we continue to pander to the 170 Billionaires, many of whom are exploiting that poverty to pay dogmuck wages to people who need the work, only to get worse off living situations by taking such jobs, damn right they should pay more.
Do we get bullied into it? I don't think we do. I don't think the global.elite and large multi-national corps are phoning up Kier Starmer and going "give me a preferential deal or I'm gone". At that level it's a market. That's what people need to understand with this ideological "tax the rich and big business" stuff. When you're dealing with people and businesses at that level, your taxation regime and actually you're entire economic policy framework is actually more of a sales pitch rather than a "how can we get money out of them". You've got to stop seeing taxation as a "method of funding the NHS". The bank of England can literally fart sterling out of its behind if it wants to. The responsibility of government in respect of economic policy is to create an environment amidst the current global landscape where British people and businesses can thrive. That will ultimately generate the most tax revenue - if everyone is doing well, earning money and spending it, everything's good. And the biggest sources of stimulation are wealthy people and large corporates. You get a large corporate to set up in the UK that's going to be hundreds of new jobs. Maybe thousands. But getting them to come here rather than, say, France, means selling to them, not clobbering them. Likewise, a wealthy person choosing the UK as his western European Base will mean high end property deals for British law firms and estate agents, it will mean staff employment, it will mean UK bank deposits and so on and so forth.
 
Do we get bullied into it? I don't think we do. I don't think the global.elite and large multi-national corps are phoning up Kier Starmer and going "give me a preferential deal or I'm gone". At that level it's a market. That's what people need to understand with this ideological "tax the rich and big business" stuff. When you're dealing with people and businesses at that level, your taxation regime and actually you're entire economic policy framework is actually more of a sales pitch rather than a "how can we get money out of them". You've got to stop seeing taxation as a "method of funding the NHS". The bank of England can literally fart sterling out of its behind if it wants to. The responsibility of government in respect of economic policy is to create an environment amidst the current global landscape where British people and businesses can thrive. That will ultimately generate the most tax revenue - if everyone is doing well, earning money and spending it, everything's good. And the biggest sources of stimulation are wealthy people and large corporates. You get a large corporate to set up in the UK that's going to be hundreds of new jobs. Maybe thousands. But getting them to come here rather than, say, France, means selling to them, not clobbering them. Likewise, a wealthy person choosing the UK as his western European Base will mean high end property deals for British law firms and estate agents, it will mean staff employment, it will mean UK bank deposits and so on and so forth.
They don't have to be phoning Starmer to bully their way, I've seen statements and interviews where some have said "if they do X we are doing Y", if that's not a statement of bullying and threat making I don't know what is.
 
I'm not sure how significant a 6% 'jump' is over 5 years?

With the tax changes, increased interest rates and the proposed AST law reforms I'm not surprised some people are jumping ship.

The supply of homes onto the market will increase choice and theoretically prices may slide BUT we usually have a standoff period, where sellers still want what they want and buyers still have affordability issues/mortgage rates to navigate.
It is a move in the right direction, but more to my point is that tax should be used to influence behaviour in the case of multiple property ownership. It is one of the so-called 'hard decisions' that should be made, but probably won't because elections, vested interests, etc. Easier to go after some other voiceless or maginalised demographic and apportion blame there why the housing market sucks.
 
I bumped into Louise Haigh this morning. I gave her a big verbal high 5 for the P&O call out, and for her early good work beginning transport renationalisation
 
They don't have to be phoning Starmer to bully their way, I've seen statements and interviews where some have said "if they do X we are doing Y", if that's not a statement of bullying and threat making I don't know what is.
It's no more bullying or threat making than the unions saying that if doctors and nurses don't get a big pay rise the NHS will collapse and there will be further strike action. It's basically just a reality that the government has to deal with. Statements and interviews with big multinational CEOs are just calling out the reality of what makes the UK competitive for them.
 
It's no more bullying or threat making than the unions saying that if doctors and nurses don't get a big pay rise the NHS will collapse and there will be further strike action. It's basically just a reality that the government has to deal with. Statements and interviews with big multinational CEOs are just calling out the reality of what makes the UK competitive for them.

There is a difference between people getting a living wage and a CEO wanting better margins to feather his own nest.
 
Do we get bullied into it? I don't think we do. I don't think the global.elite and large multi-national corps are phoning up Kier Starmer and going "give me a preferential deal or I'm gone". At that level it's a market. That's what people need to understand with this ideological "tax the rich and big business" stuff. When you're dealing with people and businesses at that level, your taxation regime and actually you're entire economic policy framework is actually more of a sales pitch rather than a "how can we get money out of them". You've got to stop seeing taxation as a "method of funding the NHS". The bank of England can literally fart sterling out of its behind if it wants to. The responsibility of government in respect of economic policy is to create an environment amidst the current global landscape where British people and businesses can thrive. That will ultimately generate the most tax revenue - if everyone is doing well, earning money and spending it, everything's good. And the biggest sources of stimulation are wealthy people and large corporates. You get a large corporate to set up in the UK that's going to be hundreds of new jobs. Maybe thousands. But getting them to come here rather than, say, France, means selling to them, not clobbering them. Likewise, a wealthy person choosing the UK as his western European Base will mean high end property deals for British law firms and estate agents, it will mean staff employment, it will mean UK bank deposits and so on and so forth.
The arguments do appear compelling BUT trickle down economics rarely works out for the average guy or gal.
 
My take on Labours start to their time in office is that they are probably about a 6 out of 10.

They have made some naive mistakes. I suspect they will take us back into the EU by the back door.

But as I want to see more public owned utilities I am prepared to over look it, it's only Labour who will start getting our services to where we need to be. So I am looking at the bigger picture and backing them.

Would like to see more research grants for our science industry which is actually world class and something I follow very closely.
 
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