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Muttley said:
Not sure I understand the surprise about Lloris. Would love to hear more about what you felt when seeing that doc.

I think I'm still cringing inside after watching Kane give that rah, rah speech at half time in that doc. Harry is definitely not captain material and has shown that in so many ways over the years. He had no words. As an England supporter, it really annoyed me that Jordan Henderson was overlooked by Southgate who just picked his best player at the time to wear the armband. Hendo was the unofficial England captain for years before his legs went. Even at the end, he would come on the pitch and lead the players whilst Harry and Gareth just did nothing. JT was an excellent captain as well for his country. Way better than Gerrard and Ferdinand.

What Ange need right now is a 26 year old Hendo. LOL - I'd take a 26 year old Kane as well, but he wouldn't be in my leadership group.
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IIRC I think I saw him as a less vocal leader on the pitch and was somewhat surprised to see him that clear and authoritative behind the scenes. Perhaps shouldn't have been surprised by that, but I was.

For me it was just a point to highlight that we can't know what's going on behind the scenes. We can't know what the captain and leadership group are like when there aren't cameras pointed at them.

I agree that Henderson seemed like a good leader. I think we miss that, but I'm also unsure about how much difference one such character makes. To me it's a collective responsibility.
 
Finney Is Back said:
He played 10 PL games and 8 Europa league games last year for Liverpool and has made 5 PL and 2CL games so far this season. He has also played 18 games for the Republic of Ireland. There is easily enough evidence of his talent. You can tell by watching him play just a few games that he is a great all round keeper.

Mad really that Liverpool have 3 goalkeepers all significantly better than our first choice one.
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Yeah I did say he looks to be decent, the point of what I said wasn't questioning his talent. But like I say, he hasn't been a no.1 goalkeeper anywhere for a single season, until he does that and to a very good level I am not buying that he is an upgrade on Vicario. It is a lot easier to appear to have no real weaknesses when you are filling in here and there rather than the pressures of being no.1 week in week out.

I remember when Gazzaniga was our no.2 and everyone saying how good he looked, then when he had to fill in for an extended amount of time highlighted more flaws. I'm not saying this would be the case with Kelleher, but I wouldn't have him ahead of Vicario at this point in time....
 
iggyfog said:
We need a really commanding CB - someone that goes out of their way to just clear things.
I don't think Romero is that kind of player this season.
A friend of mine was talking about Romero and made the comment that with Otamendi, he plays with someone, that might not be the best centre back in the world, but someone that talks, is a leader, has experience.
I am not saying that we get rid of VDV - these guys are both exceptional footballers - but we don't quite have that lead CB in our team.
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For me the Romero avd VdV partnership is really good and they seem to have a good understanding between the two of them. Quite a few of our defensive problems seem to arise when we're without that partnership.

We're yet to really see if Dragusin and VdV would form a good partnership or not. Romero and Dragusin so far doesn't look great, in part because both seem quite a bit more comfortable on the right.

I think a new LCB option would be more realistic and would improve us quite a bit. A commanding CB that is also good enough at all the things we need a CB to be good enough to upgrade on Romero or VdV seems really difficult to actually get imo.
 
braineclipse said:
For me the Romero avd VdV partnership is really good and they seem to have a good understanding between the two of them. Quite a few of our defensive problems seem to arise when we're without that partnership.

We're yet to really see if Dragusin and VdV would form a good partnership or not. Romero and Dragusin so far doesn't look great, in part because both seem quite a bit more comfortable on the right.

I think a new LCB option would be more realistic and would improve us quite a bit. A commanding CB that is also good enough at all the things we need a CB to be good enough to upgrade on Romero or VdV seems really difficult to actually get imo.
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Im pretty sure we wont look at CB for a while with Vuscovic arriving in a few months. Ange actually said that himself.
 
Jordinho said:
We won't be adding any, but hopefully we're considering upgrades.
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Im not sure there is any. Romero, vdv, Dragusin and Vuscovic should be up there with the best CB quartets in the game.

Who would you swap? Vdv for Pau Torres to give us more in the air and with distribution, without completely losing pace? That's very marginal gain, if any.
 
Gutter Boy said:
Im not sure there is any. Romero, vdv, Dragusin and Vuscovic should be up there with the best CB quartets in the game.

Who would you swap? Vdv for Pau Torres to give us more in the air and with distribution, without completely losing pace? That's very marginal gain, if any.
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I'd keep VDV for his pace and look for someone to play next to him that can lead that line.
 
Gutter Boy said:
Im not sure there is any. Romero, vdv, Dragusin and Vuscovic should be up there with the best CB quartets in the game.

Who would you swap? Vdv for Pau Torres to give us more in the air and with distribution, without completely losing pace? That's very marginal gain, if any.
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Experts are saying the Bournemouth centre back pair, and the Forest centre back pair, are exceptionally good and will be picked off in the summer
 
Not read any of the above comments tbf. On holiday, tinkled and tinkled off with Spurs. I Don’t see any change of outcome this season , next or 10 years from now with the current setup. No manager is perfect, therefore whoever we get in “next”, will not meet the expectations or agreement on tactics/subs, when results go against us. Who needs to go and at what level? We have a serious systemic failure here. 2008.
 
Hashegotthesackyet? said:
Not read any of the above comments tbf. On holiday, tinkled and tinkled off with Spurs. I Don’t see any change of outcome this season , next or 10 years from now with the current setup. No manager is perfect, therefore whoever we get in “next”, will not meet the expectations or agreement on tactics/subs, when results go against us. Who needs to go and at what level? We have a serious systemic failure here. 2008.
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Translation…Happy with Levy. Guy just needs just 10 more years.

Pathetic.
 
harr1984 said:
Yeah I did say he looks to be decent, the point of what I said wasn't questioning his talent. But like I say, he hasn't been a no.1 goalkeeper anywhere for a single season, until he does that and to a very good level I am not buying that he is an upgrade on Vicario. It is a lot easier to appear to have no real weaknesses when you are filling in here and there rather than the pressures of being no.1 week in week out.

I remember when Gazzaniga was our no.2 and everyone saying how good he looked, then when he had to fill in for an extended amount of time highlighted more flaws. I'm not saying this would be the case with Kelleher, but I wouldn't have him ahead of Vicario at this point in time....
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I called out from very early on that Gazzaniga wasn't a very good keeper.
 
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