Euro 96 squad :
13 players from 'smaller clubs' - 7 of which were starters, iirc
13 players from 'smaller clubs' - 7 of which were starters, iirc
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World Cup Group D - Uruguay, Costa Rica, England, Italy
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Euro 96 squad :
13 players from 'smaller clubs' - 7 of which were starters, iirc
There are a lot of players there that would have gotten into the squads of the other major countries. Current one? Probably none.
they did the close to doing somewhat well though, despite never really performing that well. like i have mentioned before, had some refereering decisions or penalty shootouts gone their way, who knows. also a lot of the sides who win these tournaments often do not perform that well either. its really not too much unlike england. but thats football. a game decided by moments. and to do well those moments need to go your way.
not disputing that, of course they were good players - im disagreeing with the idea that the only players good enough for England to build a competitive team with are those from the big clubs.
as shown by the Euro 96 squad - if you build a team with a group of players that compliment one another you'll do well, regardless of the stature of the teams you play for domestically (obviously you're not gonna win the world cup with a 23 picked from the Ryman league - no matter how well they are gelled :lol: but still, i think it's a valid point)
but how much more different could the squad or starting 11 have been? if we put any more mid-table side players in it, we'd become stoke.
people were calling for someone like barkley. but lets not forget, he can't even garuntee himself a starting spot for a non top-4 side
im more concerned with a players game and how he would compliment his team mates and the tactics/formation he is asked to play than what level club he is playing for.
Gerrard and Rooney both stuck out like sore thumbs in the Italy game IMV - they didn't suit what we were trying to do at all. had we replaced them with players who are a 'level below' them but more suited to the style of play/tactics etc then it would have meant the team as a whole would have likely been in better shape.
i agree with this. and i'm probably with you in thinking that too often england managers have just picked the 11 best individuals over the past decade. but i really don't think this team could've been much different. we all have our individual preferences and tweeks that we would have made. but i dont think there would've been any significant difference in performance.
cool
although i do think Lallana instead of Rooney would have seen a noticeable difference personally.
Spurmac1974
Reto Ziegler
How Wellbeck started both games is totally beyond me, he offers absolutley nothing!
Spurmac1974
Reto Ziegler
Who Wellbeck? How exactly, what did he offer? If he wasnt at Utd he would be nowhere near that squad.
yes he would be, he's a good player. he does a lot of the unfashionable work though so rarely gets credit. linked up well with Sturridge and Sterling and defended from the front, lot's of effort/never gave up/never went missing
Spurmac1974
Reto Ziegler
Seems to be one of Woy's favourites though, its hard to expect a team to play without fear though when their manager manages with fear!
milo
Jack L. Jones
I think that he was far from being the worst English player in either game.
This is how I want to see England line-up against Costa Rica providing we stick with Roy's favoured 4-2-3-1.
________________Hart_________________
Johnson____Cahill______Jones_____Shaw
________Henderson__Wilshere_________
_____Sterling____Barkley____Oxlade_____
______________Sturridge______________
It's over now, time to give these youngsters as much experience as possible.
________________Hart_________________
Johnson____Cahill______Jones_____Shaw
________Henderson__Wilshere_________
_____Sterling____Barkley____Oxlade_____
______________Sturridge______________
It's over now, time to give these youngsters as much experience as possible.