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Ange in or out?

Ange in or out?

  • In

    Votes: 90 58.1%

  • Out

    Votes: 65 41.9%
  • Total voters
    155
So we stick with him for two more games or so maybe he turns it round picks up the odd result and keeps us safe .

He has to be gone this Summer. We need change he’s not good enough for this league.
 
djp82 said:
So we stick with him for two more games or so maybe he turns it round picks up the odd result and keeps us safe .

He has to be gone this Summer. We need change he’s not good enough for this league.
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We stick with because we're in a semifinal. Get to the final and we have to stick with him for that. Win a cup and he gets another season. This is becoming very Many Utd and Ten Hag.
 
I'm sure when we get relegated Levy will have clauses in the player's contracts that they get 5 grand a week, he'll have the parachute payments and he'll double the season-ticket prices to make up "the shortfall". We'll be rolling in it.

Daniel Levy is an evil genius...
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
Is literally the answer and so obvious.

Which is why you know we won't do it.
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I dont think Bournemouth would accept it though, would they?

The more I think about it the more it makes sense but it wont happen. It would be a total of £30m when you take in Flange's dismissal pay, and that is like 3 transfer windows budget.
 
Jordinho said:
We stick with because we're in a semifinal. Get to the final and we have to stick with him for that. Win a cup and he gets another season. This is becoming very Many Utd and Ten Hag.
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At the end of the day, 9th Feb, we'll be out of two cups and no points from the Brentford match so hopefully not :)
I'd rather stay in the Prem than win a poxy trophy.

This guy lucked out at Celtic and fell into our hapless laps, his stats are terrible - yes massive hits on the injury side of things, but he doesn't have a blasted clue. We're not Brazil of the 70's and that's where he is living.
 
Daveeeeeeeed said:
Exactly, look at Utd, they got some investment after 20 years of the glazers but they are still there. To think people believe Levy will just go, "yeh I will sell now and reduce the price so I can get out" is quite funny.
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Also they think the new owners will reduce the price of a ticket like its not one of the biggest selling points.
 
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Trixster said:
At the end of the day, 9th Feb, we'll be out of two cups and no points from the Brentford match so hopefully not :)
I'd rather stay in the Prem than win a poxy trophy.

This guy lucked out at Celtic and fell into our hapless laps, his stats are terrible - yes massive hits on the injury side of things, but he doesn't have a blasted clue. We're not Brazil of the 70's and that's where he is living.
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You are indeed correct. I can only think Levy is lining someone up, because he must realise we aren't going to win a trophy, and staying up is looking harder and harder. I think it's amazing what an horrific effect a poor manager can have on a club.
 
demotw said:
Bizarre experiment? Looks more like our entire 1st team is injured and those who are not are run into the ground.

Unless you work in the spurs medical team you have no idea the fitness of the likes of Reggie, Moore, Davies etc..it’s easy as fans to say just play x he’s a LB etc. He is clearly protecting the academy players by ensuring enough senior players are also on the pitch to guide them, hardly want to destroy the confidence etc before their career has even started. The fact he has thrown Bergvall/Moore/Gray into the lineups at least shows he plays them when he thinks they are ready.

As for tactics, well he tried to change his tactic in the first half against Everton, the tactic the squad have trained for for the last 18 months and we saw how that went. Face facts the squad is decimated, our players are clearly trying hard so irrespective on whether I think Ange will stay or go (I think he will and perhaps should go in the summer) I would rather support our reserve/academy team and not be setting a mindset of you are getting relegated or that effort they are giving disappears very quickly especially with young players.
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Actually the fact he tried something different for once last week was at least a sign that he’s adaptable. The fact he failed miserably is to me a sign of the fact he is out of his depth.

On the injury front, yes he has had injuries but does that excuse the massive failings which have been seen since November 2023.
If this run of form coincided with the injuries and we had been brilliant prior to that, there could be some justification in keeping him, although even there we aren’t just losing to the likes of arsenal and Liverpool, we are losing to Everton and Leicster.

We have been terrible for over a year, the guy is out of his depth.
Put us and him out of misery
 
DeanoAustin said:
I think there are a few things in Ange’s favour that you allude to.

1. Sacking him now after the most vocal “anti Levy” chants would not be a good look.
2. Levy still gets pelters over sacking Jose before a cup final. To sack a manager who has an injury ravaged squad while he has a one goal lead in a semi final would also be a bad look. Especially when said manager has a history of delivering silverware in his second season.
3. I think Levy genuinely likes Ange. Ange isn’t like many other managers. He’s fairly straightforward and he speaks the same language as business people sometimes. Certainly more so than previous managers.

I think Ange should be fired at this point. But Levy’s PR is in the toilet. The only way that doesn’t get even worse is if Ange is a success.

However, at some point even that becomes no justification for sticking with him. I think we’ve passed that point already but it’s not my opinion that counts here.
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Agreed the only reason Ange is still here is:

1. Reluctance from the fan base to go through another managerial change
2. Reluctance from Danny to make a change when the spotlight is on him and the accusations will flow again
3. That tantalising hope that those rare Ange performances become the norm once our players come back

Like you I really can’t see point 3 ever happening and just want him to go but if it did happen, which I think Levy is hoping for, it would be one massive miraculous turnaround
 
Now it might become a bit clearer to more people that we as a football outfit aren't really that good or attractive to prospective managers who we would like to employ.

Funny how it's effectively the worst PL coach we've had under ENIC that is the one "given the longest time and backing" haha.

No, it's just because removing him will expose to an even wider fanbase and media the shambles that is our football operations as headed by Levy (or now Munn, if you like).

Our penny-pinching nature costing us more in the long-run under these owners is a delicious irony eh
 
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