I liked Erik Lamela before it was cool

[Cochise]

Re: Official - Lamela

Medical specialist says he's fit to train, so if Sherwood says he isn't then we know something ain't right with TS. That or he is also a back specialist with a different medical opinion.

 

[LutonSpurs]

Re: Official - Lamela

The guy is saying he saw him train fully today in Roma and is back in London. I am so desperate to see him and Soldado do well, purely because the club I love and support has spent a lot of money on them and they seem like 2 decent lads with bags of potential.

 

[Heda SPURSCZ]

Re: Official - Lamela

@BenPearceSpurs: ‪Sherwood reiterates once again that Lamela won't play again this season: "It's going to come too soon for Erik, the end of the season"

‏@BenPearceSpurs: Sherwood: "I haven’t seen him [Lamela], he hasn’t trained with the group yet. The last thing you want to do is rush back."

 

[superfaisty]

Re: Official - Lamela

even if he were fit who would he be ahead of for sherwood to pick him? Lennon is the encumbent on the right side (much to Townsends annoyance), Errikson's got the left berth sewn up - he wouldn't play him upfront I don;t think ahead of Kane (or bobby for that matter).

If TS is in charge next season I very much doubt Lamela would hae a place in the team but that might just be my opinion of what TS is looking for (hardworking british player types). I may be wrong and I really hope I am as I think this kid could do well for us if given a proper system to play in, and a proper chance.

 

[glorygloryeze]

Re: Official - Lamela

It is my beleif that Sherwood is not playing Lamela because he simply doesn't fancy him as a player period.

I've checked his playing mintes under Sherwood and whilst there is an opinion that Sherwood gave him more game time than AVB plus his first PL start, he played 60 mins vs Soythampton, none vs west Brom (when he was on the bench) and then 15 mins vs Stoke (when he was unfairly blasted by Ade iirc).
Then since being on the bench vs Man u away he hasn't played at all..then injured...:-k

So not really much time under Sherwood and I think this contradiction with him not being fit to play according to Sherwood but other medics in roma etc saying otherwise is either Sherwood digging his heels in, or him being instructed by the board not to play him (a la Rebrov...)

Discuss....

 

[Millsy_Yiddo]

Re: Official - Lamela

It is my beleif that Sherwood is not playing Lamela because he simply doesn't fancy him as a player period.

I've checked his playing mintes under Sherwood and whilst there is an opinion that Sherwood gave him more game time than AVB plus his first PL start, he played 60 mins vs Soythampton, none vs west Brom (when he was on the bench) and then 15 mins vs Stoke (when he was unfairly blasted by Ade iirc).
Then since being on the bench vs Man u away he hasn't played at all..then injured...:-k

So not really much time under Sherwood and I think this contradiction with him not being fit to play according to Sherwood but other medics in roma etc saying otherwise is either Sherwood digging his heels in, or him being instructed by the board not to play him (a la Rebrov...)

Discuss....

My guess is;

He was genuinely injured.

Whilst he's recovering from an injury he cannot play therefore Sherwood didn't play him.

He's now recovered but hasn't trained so Sherwood can't play him, hence the "I haven’t seen him [Lamela], he hasn’t trained with the group yet. The last thing you want to do is rush back."

By the time he's match fit the season will be over hence the "It's going to come too soon for Erik, the end of the season"


It doesn't matter what Sherwood does in the last few games regarding Lamela, he's going to get abuse about it. If he doesn't play him because he's not match fit then he's ignoring our new wonder boy who will go on to be Gareth Bale. If he does play him and his injury comes back/gets a new one then he's destroyed our new wonder boy who will go on to be Gareth Bale.

If he plays him and he plays brilliantly the conspiracy theorists will exclaim 'look at that idiot TS pretending such a fantastic player was injured, we could have finished 4th if he hadn't done that'. If he's **** they will exclaim that TS 'is playing him in the wrong position or can't give him the correct instructions because he's too thick to learn spanish'.

The guy got injured. Now he's fit again, but he's not fit enough to play, and by the time he is, the season will be over. That's it.

 

[NWND]

Re: Official - Lamela

My guess is;

He was genuinely injured.

Whilst he's recovering from an injury he cannot play therefore Sherwood didn't play him.

He's now recovered but hasn't trained so Sherwood can't play him, hence the "I haven’t seen him [Lamela], he hasn’t trained with the group yet. The last thing you want to do is rush back."

By the time he's match fit the season will be over hence the "It's going to come too soon for Erik, the end of the season"


It doesn't matter what Sherwood does in the last few games regarding Lamela, he's going to get abuse about it. If he doesn't play him because he's not match fit then he's ignoring our new wonder boy who will go on to be Gareth Bale. If he does play him and his injury comes back/gets a new one then he's destroyed our new wonder boy who will go on to be Gareth Bale.

If he plays him and he plays brilliantly the conspiracy theorists will exclaim 'look at that idiot TS pretending such a fantastic player was injured, we could have finished 4th if he hadn't done that'. If he's **** they will exclaim that TS 'is playing him in the wrong position or can't give him the correct instructions because he's too thick to learn spanish'.

The guy got injured. Now he's fit again, but he's not fit enough to play, and by the time he is, the season will be over. That's it.

But Sherwood's still a clueless owl, though, right? :-k

 

[metalgear]

Re: Official - Lamela

sherwood is hell bent on making sure kane and bentaleb come through for his own future.
he doesn't have to be bothered with all the other internationals as they were not his decisions (except eriksen).

 

[Millsy_Yiddo]

Re: Official - Lamela

sherwood is hell bent on making sure kane and bentaleb come through for his own future.
he doesn't have to be bothered with all the other internationals as they were not his decisions (except eriksen).

He hasn't played Bentaleb in the past three games, and in the past 3 games that he has played Kane in he's scored in all of them.

Does anyone ever think that he might just be picking the team that he feels will get the best results based on current form and player ability from a pool of players that are match fit?

Is that a bit too sensible or something?

 

[DTA]

Re: Official - Lamela

He hasn't played Bentaleb in the past three games, and in the past 3 games that he has played Kane in he's scored in all of them.

Does anyone ever think that he might just be picking the team that he feels will get the best results based on current form and player ability from a pool of players that are match fit?

Is that a bit too sensible or something?

Dont be Silly YTS Tim would be incapable of doing something like that... its not like he has had the team score 3 times or more in 8 of the 19 games he has had in charge, or has a better points per game average then any of our managers ever or better results in his half of the season than super tactics DVD man did

No, no Tim is just winging it, he probably just flips a coin if he cant decide or uses a blind fold while throwing darts at pictures of players available, all the while in full arsenal kit (including socks and boots).

 

[harr1984]

Re: Official - Lamela

sherwood is hell bent on making sure kane and bentaleb come through for his own future.
he doesn't have to be bothered with all the other internationals as they were not his decisions (except eriksen).

Yeah, I can hardly think of any internationals Tim selects, he pretty much just sends the U-19 side out....

 

[THFC6061]

Re: Official - Lamela

Breaking News:

The BBC's Natural History department have commissioned David Attenborough to do a documentary about the lesser spotted Lamela.

 

[braineclipse]

Re: Official - Lamela

@BenPearceSpurs: ‪Sherwood reiterates once again that Lamela won't play again this season: "It's going to come too soon for Erik, the end of the season"

‏@BenPearceSpurs: Sherwood: "I haven’t seen him [Lamela], he hasn’t trained with the group yet. The last thing you want to do is rush back."

Sounds like he's just looking for an excuse to not play him to me.

Our last league game is still two weeks away, I'm guessing we sent him to Rome to have him assessed by a medical staff we somewhat trust. Sherwood can't watch him in training for two weeks and then include him? Really?

Even AVB had Lamela on the bench and gave him 10-15 minutes against against Arsenal just a couple of days after he signed. Not that uncommon for new signings to get a week or less before they get chucked in. But now two weeks isn't enough to give Lamela a run-out?

 

[harr1984]

Re: Official - Lamela

Sounds like he's just looking for an excuse to not play him to me.

Our last league game is still two weeks away, I'm guessing we sent him to Rome to have him assessed by a medical staff we somewhat trust. Sherwood can't watch him in training for two weeks and then include him? Really?

Even AVB had Lamela on the bench and gave him 10-15 minutes against against Arsenal just a couple of days after he signed. Not that uncommon for new signings to get a week or less before they get chucked in. But now two weeks isn't enough to give Lamela a run-out?

You do realise he's been out INJURED for quite some time right? How often do you see players out for a lengthy period of time then back playing PL football within a week or two?

 

[indianspur]

Re: Official - Lamela

But Sherwood's still a clueless owl, though, right? :-k

no, apparently this guy is

 

[chancer]

Re: Official - Lamela

Sounds like he's just looking for an excuse to not play him to me

Why would Sherwood be looking for an excuse not to play him?

 

[Rossi22]

Re: Official - Lamela

I believe that he's not fit to play. That said, even if he were, Tim wouldn't drop Lennon for him anyway.

 

[braineclipse]

Re: Official - Lamela

You do realise he's been out INJURED for quite some time right? How often do you see players out for a lengthy period of time then back playing PL football within a week or two?

Off the bench? Fairly regularly I would say.

How often do you see Premier League managers making judgements on if a player is ready to play or not before watching him in training instead of just having a look to see if he's ready to contribute or not.

Let's not forget we've had a player like Harry Winks on our bench recently. It's not like our bench is made up entirely of performing superstars.

Why would Sherwood be looking for an excuse not to play him?

Because he thinks it's more likely that he will get short term results with the players he's worked with for half a season and knows well and that's all he cares about?

Because re-introducing a massive signing that's likely to be somewhat lacking in match fitness and put in an average performance doesn't impress anyone with the manager. Whereas introducing yet another youngster for his PL debut is something that can put Sherwood in a positive light?

 

[metalgear]

Re: Official - Lamela

Breaking News:

The BBC's Natural History department have commissioned David Attenborough to do a documentary about the lesser spotted Lamela.

:ross:

 

[harr1984]

Re: Official - Lamela

Off the bench? Fairly regularly I would say.

How often do you see Premier League managers making judgements on if a player is ready to play or not before watching him in training instead of just having a look to see if he's ready to contribute or not.

Let's not forget we've had a player like Harry Winks on our bench recently. It's not like our bench is made up entirely of performing superstars.



Because he thinks it's more likely that he will get short term results with the players he's worked with for half a season and knows well and that's all he cares about?

Because re-introducing a massive signing that's likely to be somewhat lacking in match fitness and put in an average performance doesn't impress anyone with the manager. Whereas introducing yet another youngster for his PL debut is something that can put Sherwood in a positive light?

You're talking about him coming off the bench in the final game of the season for a few minutes? When he's been out for so long, is it worth the risk? What would anyone get out of it?